#WeNurses - Tuesday 4th October 2016 8pm (GMT Standard Time)
Living with death
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This chat is guest hosted by @4AdsthePoet
Pre Chat Information written by Teresa Chinn
A few weeks ago I read a blog by Zoe Bojelian that really made me stop and think, it was around how some people live life walking hand in hand with death and the emotional impact this can have on them. Zoe very eloquently explained that how living with a life limiting or life threatening condition often means that friendships are made with people with similar conditions and the huge psychological and emotional toll this can have. I really don't do the blog post any justice and I recommend that you read the blog post:
Death - let's be more open, more kind, more caring.
For me this raised many thoughts and questions, which I hope we can explore in this #WeNurses discussion:
- What is the impact of living with death on the people we care for, their families, friends and carers?
- Do we consider the impact of living with death as health care professionals?
- What support can we offer or signpost to?
- What are the health and well being implications of living with death?
- When someone with a life limiting or life threatening condition dies how can we support relatives & carers?
- How can we be more open, kind and caring when caring for people and families who see death so often?
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This discussion tackled the sensitive issue of supporting patients and families who live with death. The chat started with people sharing their initial thoughts:
People talked about support and what was needed:
Families were very much at the heart of this discussion:
And the impact of living with death was also mentioned lots:
Towards the end of the discussion people shared their final thoughts:
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@KimYoun33934432
04 October 2016 20:00
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:00
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RT @WeLDnurses: Joining: #WeNurses #WeEOLC #WeLDNs 8pm http://wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-calendar ^prechats^ Here's some handy Do's & Don'ts :) https://t.co/Y… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:00
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Hello ! Welcome to #WeNurses Please give us a wave if you are joining us this evening :) https://t.co/yI5MoYSyV3 |
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@EmilyBeardall1
04 October 2016 20:00
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RT @WePharmacists: Joining: #WeNurses #WeEOLC #WeLDNs 8pm http://wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-calendar ^prechats^ Here's some handy Do's & Don'ts :) https://t.c… |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:01
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@WeNurses Hello!! #WeNurses https://t.co/7UI9Zb2o9S |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:01
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Tonights discussion is all around "living with death" and was inspired by @4AdsthePoet blog here > http://thetriangulationofthought.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/death-lets-be-more-open-more-kind-more.html?view=classic #WeNurses |
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@KimYoun33934432
04 October 2016 20:01
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RT @WeNurses: Always worth remembering to THINK before sending a tweet #WeNurses https://t.co/169VQlRzNc |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:01
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Hello Teresa here #WeNurses |
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@KimYoun33934432
04 October 2016 20:01
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RT @WeNurses: Joining: #WeNurses #WeEOLC #WeLDNs 8pm https://t.co/U9gJlA0aBB ^prechats^ Here's some handy Do's & Don'ts :) https://t.co/WXQ… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:01
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#WeNurses ?????????????? |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:02
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This blog really made me think about how i support people & their families #WeNurses https://t.co/YTD3NKtoc7 |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:02
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@PUNC16_Serafina Hi if you add #WeNurses to your tweets & unprotect your account for the eve people not following you yet can tweet you :) |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:02
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#WeNurses https://t.co/X1PKkUuBkf |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:02
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Thank you so much for joining us Zoe and for sharing your amazing blog post #WeNurses https://twitter.com/4AdsthePoet/status/783381610884374528 |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:02
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#WeNurses hi Zoe here #Ads'Mum |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:02
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we also have @4AdsthePoet over on #WeNurses talking about Living with death #WeEOLC - so great topics tonight! |
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@caroline_cdc
04 October 2016 20:02
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Living with death with @4AdsthePoet via #WeNurses 04/10/2016 http://www.wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-details/2842?utm_content=bufferc300e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer via @WeNurses |
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@WeSchoolNurses
04 October 2016 20:03
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Good evening all #wenurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/783381202216554499 |
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@JoyWharton1
04 October 2016 20:03
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RT @WeEOLC: we also have @4AdsthePoet over on #WeNurses talking about Living with death #WeEOLC - so great topics tonight! |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:03
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RT @WeEOLC: we also have @4AdsthePoet over on #WeNurses talking about Living with death #WeEOLC - so great topics tonight! |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:03
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@WeNurses #WeNurses thank you for hosting this important chat & thanks everyone taking part! |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:04
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RT @WeEOLC: we also have @4AdsthePoet over on #WeNurses talking about Living with death #WeEOLC - so great topics tonight! |
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@LearnPEOLC
04 October 2016 20:04
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RT @WeEOLC: we also have @4AdsthePoet over on #WeNurses talking about Living with death #WeEOLC - so great topics tonight! |
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@NRCUK
04 October 2016 20:04
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @WeNurses #WeNurses thank you for hosting this important chat & thanks everyone taking part! |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:05
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#WeNurses think it important to remember we "live with death" always part of us even if not apparent. |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:06
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I think that @4AdsthePoet articulated this well in her blog #WeNurses https://t.co/RY4mkxK3Kp |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:06
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think that @4AdsthePoet articulated this well in her blog #WeNurses https://t.co/RY4mkxK3Kp |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:06
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@WeNurses #WeNurses from working with the Child death overview panel, Plymouth, I feel that death affects families immensely. |
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@PUNC16_Serafina
04 October 2016 20:06
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#wenurses it is very hard on those living with it, but with the right support from health professionals it can be made easier |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:06
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#WeNurses think too open everyone has their own role in the family unit cant from outside tell the effect apart from its permanent change |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:07
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RT @puncsarehowell: @WeNurses #WeNurses from working with the Child death overview panel, Plymouth, I feel that death affects families imme… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:07
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RT @PUNC16_Serafina: #wenurses it is very hard on those living with it, but with the right support from health professionals it can be made… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:07
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Hi @PUNCmorwenna @PUNC16karleigh if you click on #WeNurses you'll see the conversation :) add #WeNurses to your tweets too to take part :) |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:08
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@puncsarehowell @WeNurses it impacts on families at every level, difficult to think of area of life it does change forever #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:08
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@WeNurses #WeNurses huge, especially if there is a level of guilt about 'not doing enough' |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:08
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RT @4AdsthePoet: #WeNurses think it important to remember we "live with death" always part of us even if not apparent. |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:08
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@PUNC16_Serafina @WeNurses #WeNurses sometimes families don't always realise what support is available to them, so important to advise them. |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:08
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I think we can forget this at times .... #WeNurses https://twitter.com/4AdsthePoet/status/783382677537886208 |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:09
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think that @4AdsthePoet articulated this well in her blog #WeNurses https://t.co/RY4mkxK3Kp |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:09
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could we give @PUNCmorwenna & @PUNC16karleigh student nurses a quick wave on their fist #WeNurses chat please :) |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:09
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#WeNurses https://twitter.com/JobbingRev/status/783383437096980480 |
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@PaulaHopes1
04 October 2016 20:10
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RT @WeNurses: Always worth remembering to THINK before sending a tweet #WeNurses https://t.co/169VQlRzNc |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:10
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Hi everyone, I'm a first year student at Plymouth University joining my first Tweetchat #wenurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:10
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RT @puncsarehowell: @PUNC16_Serafina @WeNurses #WeNurses sometimes families don't always realise what support is available to them, so impo… |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:10
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RT @cara_mercer: @WeNurses #WeNurses huge, especially if there is a level of guilt about 'not doing enough' |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:10
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@puncsarehowell @PUNC16_Serafina @WeNurses also needs recognising varies region to region. Sometimes gr8 sometimes does not exist #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:10
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I'm not sure that we as nurses always realise the extent to which families live with death #WeNurses https://twitter.com/puncsarehowell/status/783383384999550976 |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:10
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RT @PUNC16_Serafina: #wenurses it is very hard on those living with it, but with the right support from health professionals it can be made… |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:10
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@WeNurses @4AdsthePoet #WeNurses sorry for late arrival- Twitter issues |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:11
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#WeNurses my first time ever too, Im a student nurse |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:11
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think we can forget this at times .... #WeNurses https://twitter.com/4AdsthePoet/status/783382677537886208 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:11
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@AgencyNurse also that some families have different coping mechanisms like humour #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:11
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RT @AgencyNurse: I'm not sure that we as nurses always realise the extent to which families live with death #WeNurses https://t.co/3hhb03xr… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:11
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Lovely to see all the new tweeting @punc14's on tonights chat :) #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:12
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What struck me about Zoes blog post was the extent to which those with life limiting conditions are surrounded by death #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:12
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@spencer_sian @WeNurses Twitter issues almost tissues very appropriate #WeNurses |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:12
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@4AdsthePoet @WeNurses #WeNurses I think sometime it's forgot the impact death has on the remaining siblings, not just the parents affected. |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:12
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HCP are also children, siblings, spouses, parents, friends too & many will be living personally with death too. #WeNurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:12
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#wenurses it's always difficult when nursing a patient who is dying though |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:12
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RT @WeNurses: Lovely to see all the new tweeting @punc14's on tonights chat :) #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:13
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RT @JFr4ser: HCP are also children, siblings, spouses, parents, friends too & many will be living personally with death too. #WeNurses |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:13
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@AgencyNurse Agree have had patients say they may be one of the original ones left in a cancer support group #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:13
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For those new to tweetchatting this eve Click on #WeNurses to see everyones tweets. Add #WeNurses to your tweets to… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783384577758855168 |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:13
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#WeNurses the impact is on the very core of families, of life, of loss and of hopes and dreams- families share with… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783384602903736320 |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:13
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RT @puncsarehowell: @4AdsthePoet @WeNurses #WeNurses I think sometime it's forgot the impact death has on the remaining siblings, not just… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:14
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@AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:14
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#WeNurses https://twitter.com/nurseleonie27/status/783383755209764864 |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:14
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RT @AgencyNurse: It seems obvious now i think about it ... but have never really thought about the impact that this may have #WeNurses http… |
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@pujisyukur361
04 October 2016 20:14
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RT @WeNurses: For those new to tweetchatting this eve Click on #WeNurses to see everyones tweets. Add #WeNurses to your tweets to join the… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:14
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Oh gosh - facing your mortality head on in that way must be scary #WeNurses https://t.co/Ei1sM6GKaV |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:15
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:15
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#WeNurses no amount of books, reading and training feels anywhere close to understanding- but listening, sharing -a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783385071273250816 |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:15
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@4AdsthePoet #wenurses death in a family is a major trauma that will affect all members, things are never the same again |
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@PUNC16young122
04 October 2016 20:15
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#WeNurses hi everyone, first year adult nurse at Plymouth uni. My first ever Twitter chat ?? |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses the impact is on the very core of families, of life, of loss and of hopes and dreams- families share with me th… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:16
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NEXT QUESTION Do we consider the impact of living with death as health care professionals? #WeNurses https://t.co/fCmnXy0Vbx |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @JFr4ser: HCP are also children, siblings, spouses, parents, friends too & many will be living personally with death too. #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:16
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@AgencyNurse Adam lost many friends. Many of my closest friends have also lost their children, death becomes our life #WeNurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @puncsarehowell: @4AdsthePoet @WeNurses #WeNurses I think sometime it's forgot the impact death has on the remaining siblings, not just… |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @AgencyNurse: Oh gosh - facing your mortality head on in that way must be scary #WeNurses https://t.co/Ei1sM6GKaV |
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@WePharmacists
04 October 2016 20:16
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#askWePh please? #wenurses #wedocs https://t.co/3rTsgU1fYj |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @VickiJNurse: @AgencyNurse also that some families have different coping mechanisms like humour #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses the impact is on the very core of families, of life, of loss and of hopes and dreams- families share with me th… |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:16
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@puncsarehowell @WeNurses #wenurses especially at a time when the rug has been pulled out from under them, having a calm advisor will help |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:16
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RT @AgencyNurse: I'm not sure that we as nurses always realise the extent to which families live with death #WeNurses https://t.co/3hhb03xr… |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:17
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@AgencyNurse They actually were quite proud that they had made it that long used to joke they were 'past sell by date' #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:17
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I cant even imagine the strength it must take to get through this #WeNurses How can we support ? https://t.co/F51hleyIKM |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:17
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Families are hugely affected by death, but carers can also be affected, having built bonds with long term patients/clients. #wenurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:17
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#wenurses nursing a patient who is dying is difficult and can have an impact on the nurse if it a regular thing part of their day |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:17
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses no amount of books, reading and training feels anywhere close to understanding- but listening, sharing -and bei… |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:17
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@4AdsthePoet @AgencyNurse Medicalising family life is often so intrusive, weary over the long term, huge strain on relationships #wenurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:17
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That is what really helps #WeNurses https://twitter.com/spencer_sian/status/783385071273250816 |
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@monkeypiggy_me
04 October 2016 20:17
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RT @WeNurses: Always worth remembering to THINK before sending a tweet #WeNurses https://t.co/169VQlRzNc |
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@StevenGrimbleby
04 October 2016 20:17
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@WeNurses #WeNurses Not as much as we should. The impact of living with death can be massive for children. |
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@_pollyallison
04 October 2016 20:17
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trying to get used to these tweet chats, hopefully I'll get to grip with it and be able to join in #WeNurses |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:17
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RT @WeNurses: NEXT QUESTION Do we consider the impact of living with death as health care professionals? #WeNurses https://t.co/fCmnXy0Vbx |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:18
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Hi @PUNC16young122 and WELCOME #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:18
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RT @WeNurses: NEXT QUESTION Do we consider the impact of living with death as health care professionals? #WeNurses https://t.co/fCmnXy0Vbx |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:18
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@spencer_sian i think it helps when people like @4AdsthePoet share their perspective .... but understanding often comes with time #WeNurses |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:18
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@punckayleigh6 @WeNurses @PUNC16_Serafina #WeNurses definitely Kayleigh, there are many bereavement charities that provide great support. |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:18
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#WeNurses I have been the family member,I have given TLC care as a HCA both situations I felt powerless. Will always be part of my practice |
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@pixlz
04 October 2016 20:18
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RT @WeNurses: Here is the blog post by @4AdsthePoet that inspired tonights #WeNurses > http://thetriangulationofthought.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/death-lets-be-more-open-more-kind-more.html?view=classic Well worth a read before w… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:18
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RT @punc_h_dodger: #WeNurses I have been the family member,I have given TLC care as a HCA both situations I felt powerless. Will always be… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:18
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RT @AgencyNurse: I cant even imagine the strength it must take to get through this #WeNurses How can we support ? https://t.co/F51hleyIKM |
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@PUNCstruth
04 October 2016 20:18
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Hello everyone #WeNurses |
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@StevenGrimbleby
04 October 2016 20:18
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@WeNurses #WeNurses Charities such as @Daisys_Dream & @winstonswish. Can be a massive help to families before and after death |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:18
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@4AdsthePoet i am so sorry to hear that xxx #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16young122
04 October 2016 20:19
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#WeNurses many people are not offered the right support or are not sure on how to get the right support. |
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@PUNCnancy
04 October 2016 20:19
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@WeNurses Initial shock and disbelief followed by overwhelming emotions. Families must be advised of support services. #WeNurses |
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@punc89hols
04 October 2016 20:19
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#WeNurses nurses aim to become effective people first, who look and ask for support, which ables then to support bereaved families.#support |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:19
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dark humour can play a part with some #WeNurses https://t.co/MmslYukuxI |
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@Lindapunc14
04 October 2016 20:19
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#WeNurses Having supported a patient in their last stages of their death, I really think it's good to hold their hand as support to them. |
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@charitybegin4
04 October 2016 20:19
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RT @JFr4ser: HCP are also children, siblings, spouses, parents, friends too & many will be living personally with death too. #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:19
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HCPs can be affected who have regular contact with dying patient and family, no one is immune from crying occasionally #wenurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:19
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:19
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @4AdsthePoet #wenurses death in a family is a major trauma that will affect all members, things are never the same aga… |
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@axlotlincork
04 October 2016 20:20
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RT @WeNurses: Always worth remembering to THINK before sending a tweet #WeNurses https://t.co/169VQlRzNc |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:20
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@4AdsthePoet @WeNurses @AgencyNurse so sorry to hear #WeNurses |
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@PPuckrin
04 October 2016 20:20
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@puncsarehowell @WeNurses @4AdsthePoet The lasting effects it can have are often forgotten #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:20
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But this support is only available in certain regions. There are huge black holes around UK #WeNurses https://t.co/qOImt5ijn4 |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:20
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@4AdsthePoet @AgencyNurse support often found through families with CYP with similar conditions... #wenurses |
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@PUNCmorwenna
04 October 2016 20:20
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#wenurses loss is a huge obstacle to over come in life which I feel never really properly heals, but #wenurses can give hope and light ??? |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:20
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#WeNurses perhaps we are taught that we must help to preserve life? I would say- this is also about the quality of… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783386346857590784 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:20
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@AgencyNurse It's important to try to understand peoples individual needs and what is appropriate #WeNurses |
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@palf_abi
04 October 2016 20:20
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@nurseleonie27 @WeNurses I agree, everyone dealing with death and bereavement copes differently #WeNurses |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:20
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@WeNurses are getting better - showing empathy and kindness to staff during their bereavement process must be a starting point #WeNurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:20
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#wenurses agree polly my first chat and struggling?? |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:21
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@WeNurses some services geared towards it. Others very much not -acute care often short-termist, individual events, not joined up #wenurses |
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@flying_wayne
04 October 2016 20:21
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RT @PUNC16young122: #WeNurses hi everyone, first year adult nurse at Plymouth uni. My first ever Twitter chat ?? |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:21
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RT @punc89hols: #WeNurses nurses aim to become effective people first, who look and ask for support, which ables then to support bereaved… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:21
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RT @hepworth_becky: @4AdsthePoet @AgencyNurse support often found through families with CYP with similar conditions... #wenurses |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:21
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@PUNC16Leanne_T @WeNurses @4AdsthePoet totally agree, worked with many families who've lost children, life is just never the same. #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:21
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@WeNurses Huge Each member will deal with the situation differently, perhaps will feel they have they have their own role to play #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:21
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@robert_sidwell #wenurses it is so hard to emotionally unattach from the experience of patients dying |
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@PUNCstruth
04 October 2016 20:21
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There really is a need for all nurses to understand the importance of working with families of those effected in the best way #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:21
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses perhaps we are taught that we must help to preserve life? I would say- this is also about the quality of the li… |
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@PUNC16AliFord
04 October 2016 20:22
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#WeNurses You find ways of dealing with loss on a regular basis but it is always loss in its full force when you have cared for them. |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:22
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:22
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @4AdsthePoet #wenurses death in a family is a major trauma that will affect all members, things are never the same aga… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:22
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@VickiJNurse yes - getting to know people and understanding their needs so important #WeNurses |
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@chapmanipad
04 October 2016 20:22
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RT @puncsarehowell: @WeNurses #WeNurses from working with the Child death overview panel, Plymouth, I feel that death affects families imme… |
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@AlresfordBear
04 October 2016 20:22
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@JennytheM @WeNurses Just not when accessing social care to the masses *looks at camera* #wenurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:22
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#WeNurses Agree Because we can't know and learn everything all at the same time- @4AdsthePoet honesty highlights so… https://t.co/GnQuaoZwvP |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:22
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RT @AlresfordBear: @JennytheM @WeNurses Just not when accessing social care to the masses *looks at camera* #wenurses |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:23
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@4AdsthePoet @punckayleigh6 @WeNurses @PUNC16_Serafina yes unfortunately levels of support do vary from region to region.#WeNurses |
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@PUNCamy
04 October 2016 20:23
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@WeNurses #Punc16 #WeNurses its the little things people take for granted where the loss is felt greatest things not appreciated day to day |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:23
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@AgencyNurse @VickiJNurse often used for us staff behind closed doors as coping mechanism. #wenurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:23
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RT @hepworth_becky: @4AdsthePoet @AgencyNurse support often found through families with CYP with similar conditions... #wenurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:23
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RT @PUNCmorwenna: #wenurses loss is a huge obstacle to over come in life which I feel never really properly heals, but #wenurses can give h… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:23
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Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co/HiVagFnFBT |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:23
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co… |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:23
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@steve_grimbleby @WeNurses #wenurses greater impact if they do not gain closure e.g if deemed too young to attend funerals |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:24
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Are we as HCPs aware of the 'right support' ? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/PUNC16young122/status/783385958905511936 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:24
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Agree Because we can't know and learn everything all at the same time- @4AdsthePoet honesty highlights so much-… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:24
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Agree Because we can't know and learn everything all at the same time- @4AdsthePoet honesty highlights so much-… |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:24
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@4AdsthePoet @WeNurses Agree the stiff upper lip in Nursing has hopefully gone supporting each other as well as families #WeNurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:24
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#wenurses dying is sadly a regular occurance in a nursing home, we have no time out or support from management after a death. |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:24
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Agree Because we can't know and learn everything all at the same time- @4AdsthePoet honesty highlights so much-… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:24
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RT @4AdsthePoet: But this support is only available in certain regions. There are huge black holes around UK #WeNurses https://t.co/qOImt5i… |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:24
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@PUNC16young122 #wenurses there should be more education about the grieving process and help available at each stage |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:24
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@spencer_sian @AgencyNurse thank you x #WeNurses |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:24
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#WeNurses @PUNCstruth Holistic approach I think is best, also active listening, do they want input or space at that moment |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:25
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#WeNurses families share with me that life changes - it become unrecognisable- and that a fog cover them- and they… https://t.co/YAIJNqij4a |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:25
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co… |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:25
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@AgencyNurse #wenurses it's definitely a coping mechanism! |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:25
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RT @AgencyNurse: Are we as HCPs aware of the 'right support' ? #WeNurses https://t.co/FjbYQKWhUl |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:25
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co… |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:25
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RT @robert_sidwell: #wenurses dying is sadly a regular occurance in a nursing home, we have no time out or support from management after a… |
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@StevenGrimbleby
04 October 2016 20:25
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@wenurses #WeNurses Nurse training needs to be improved to help nurses support families more. I had minimal training during nursing diploma |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:26
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Midwives play such an important role too here .... loss of a baby so devastating #WeNurses https://t.co/k7JH1OJYIQ |
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@punc89hols
04 October 2016 20:26
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I dont think we can prepare ourselves for death. Look for desired sources of support i.e family friends. #WeNurses #accessiblesupport |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:26
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@4AdsthePoet @JennytheM @WeNurses What a lovely image that conveys. Feeling teary now #wenurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:26
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Sounds about right #WeNurses https://t.co/eHsTmowlOP |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:26
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NEXT QUESTION What support can we offer or signpost to? #WeNurses https://t.co/QIJiHEna0k |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:26
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RT @steve_grimbleby: @wenurses #WeNurses Nurse training needs to be improved to help nurses support families more. I had minimal training d… |
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@PUNC14beth
04 October 2016 20:26
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Hi! I'm a first year child nursing student at Plymouth university ?? my first ever tweet chat #wenurses |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:26
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@WeNurses @puncsarehowell Completely agree, it's so important that we remember the families too #WeNurses |
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@PaulaHopes1
04 October 2016 20:26
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RT @WeDistrictNurse: Joining: #WeNurses #WeEOLC #WeLDNs 8pm http://wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-calendar ^prechats^ Here's some handy Do's & Don'ts :) https://t… |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:27
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RT @punc89hols: I dont think we can prepare ourselves for death. Look for desired sources of support i.e family friends. #WeNurses #accessi… |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:27
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People deal with grief differently, some do want help sometimes they prefer to deal with it their own way either way, respected #wenurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:27
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@AgencyNurse @JennytheM @WeNurses yes most child deaths occur in first years #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:27
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RT @steve_grimbleby: @wenurses #WeNurses Nurse training needs to be improved to help nurses support families more. I had minimal training d… |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:27
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@spencer_sian #wenurses surely one of our main motivators as nurses is to help save+prolong lives, I still feel it is very much a vocation |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:27
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@JennytheM Met kind midwives and unkind ones when i had a miscarriage ... both will stay with me #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:27
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @PUNC16young122 #wenurses there should be more education about the grieving process and help available at each stage |
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@PUNCmorwenna
04 October 2016 20:28
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@WeNurses I think we are getting better offering so much more support to families and individuals to come to terms with a loss #WeNurses |
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@HealthUKTD
04 October 2016 20:28
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RT @4AdsthePoet: @AgencyNurse yes often families face multiple bereavements in a short space of time #WeNurses |
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@HealthUKTD
04 October 2016 20:28
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Agree Because we can't know and learn everything all at the same time- @4AdsthePoet honesty highlights so much-… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:28
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@4AdsthePoet @JennytheM kindness and compassion ... it really is vital, not just for our patients but for their families too #WeNurses |
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@PUNCresurgam
04 October 2016 20:28
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#PUNC16 #WeNurses #nrs403 I mean this comment compassionately: death can bring a sense of relief that a loved one isn't suffering anymore |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:28
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@WeNurses @macmillancancer as well as any local voluntary agencies #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:29
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Support can be given as to however much or little is needed. Sometimes just talking helps or signposted to bereavement counselling #wenurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:29
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@AgencyNurse @PUNC16young122 I think it's important to recognise when it is better to withdraw and signpost to other services.#wenurses |
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@StevenGrimbleby
04 October 2016 20:29
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@PUNC16Leanne_T @WeNurses #wenurses Very much so. This is where advice from bereavement charities is so important |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:29
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I hope so .... it's "ok to be human " when supporting patients and families around death #WeNurses https://twitter.com/VickiJNurse/status/783387334746238977 |
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@palf_abi
04 October 2016 20:30
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#WeNurses totally agree with this, it is hard for carers when it comes to patients passing away that we have a bond… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783388770817155075 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:30
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RT @AgencyNurse: I hope so .... it's "ok to be human " when supporting patients and families around death #WeNurses https://twitter.com/VickiJNurse/status/783387334746238977 |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:30
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#WeEOLC some fab tweets going on over on #WeNurses - will catch up later! |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:30
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oooh this is so hard though .... and also supporting families in the way they want to be supported #WeNurses https://twitter.com/hepworth_becky/status/783388582677479424 |
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@puncrits
04 October 2016 20:30
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@puncmandyh16 #WeNurses I agree!!! Carers and nurses also need support at times |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:30
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RT @punc_h_dodger: #WeNurses @PUNCstruth Holistic approach I think is best, also active listening, do they want input or space at that mome… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:30
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RT @punc_h_dodger: #WeNurses @PUNCstruth Holistic approach I think is best, also active listening, do they want input or space at that mome… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:30
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses families share with me that life changes - it become unrecognisable- and that a fog cover them- and they just c… |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:30
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Every life is precious and every passing should be treated with the same level of compassion and care #wenurses |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:30
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@PUNCmorwenna @WeNurses Perhaps what we still don't do enough around is recognising loss/grief may happen long before death. #wenurses |
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@NHS_RobW
04 October 2016 20:31
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@4AdsthePoet sorry to miss this https://t.co/Km2CS97Gjc @WeNurses @WeAHPs #WeNurses #timetochange |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:31
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@hepworth_becky @AgencyNurse @PUNC16young122 important when you do though to follow up to ensure service available #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:31
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@WeNurses bereavement charities, grief counselling services #wenurses |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:31
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#WeNurses at times its the little things, knowing how every member has their Tea so don't have to disturb but show/offer support |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:31
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@WeNurses I think it's so important that we mustn't be afraid to talk about death, but we must also respect our patients wishes #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:31
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@spencer_sian oh Sian ! This is so very sad ... how do you help them? What can we do to support ? #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:31
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@WeEOLC double #'ing are we :) looking forward to going through #WeEOLC after #WeNurses both complimenting chats this eve :) |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:32
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#WeNurses think it should be protocol to follow up with families at regular intervals post as well |
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@lilian_wittman
04 October 2016 20:32
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#WeNurses hi everyone there are some good counselling services out there, also hospital based ones if in patients |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:32
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Spot on Clair ! Very well said #WeNurses https://twitter.com/PUNC16Clair/status/783389048471691265 |
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@punc16lwalker
04 October 2016 20:32
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@WeNurses @DyingMatters are great at helping people talk about dying, death and bereavement #WeNurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:32
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@AgencyNurse @PUNC16young122 preservation of staff emotional state also essential to consider. Sadly there will be another death. #wenurses |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:32
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@AgencyNurse I have found if families don't want to engage just leaving phone numbers sometimes they call later #WeNurses |
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@edwardnorthey
04 October 2016 20:32
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RT @WeNurses: @WeEOLC double #'ing are we :) looking forward to going through #WeEOLC after #WeNurses both complimenting chats this eve :) |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:32
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This should be on the wall of every hospital #WeNurses https://t.co/1QfovXJ74Y |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:32
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@PUNCresurgam Amen to that... Grief & loss long before death. Maybe more pertinent in adult deaths than children, don't know..? #wenurses |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:32
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:32
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RT @NHS_RobW: @4AdsthePoet sorry to miss this https://t.co/Km2CS97Gjc @WeNurses @WeAHPs #WeNurses #timetochange |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:33
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A phone number can be a lifeline #Wenurses https://t.co/I6aBF1PDOn |
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@grannie_wise
04 October 2016 20:33
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Agree, staff need support & kindness to give it onwards it is like a precious parcel passed onwards #WeNurses https://t.co… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:33
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RT @4AdsthePoet: This should be on the wall of every hospital #WeNurses https://t.co/1QfovXJ74Y |
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@nicolabell25
04 October 2016 20:33
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@learnhospice @BCH_CPSC @WeEOLC some people don't call it that but find contentment in themselves/family or friends #WeNurses |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:33
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RT @punc16lwalker: @WeNurses @DyingMatters are great at helping people talk about dying, death and bereavement #WeNurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:33
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#wenurses it can also be difficult to nurse someone when it is also closer to home to deal with as well |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:33
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RT @NHS_RobW: @4AdsthePoet sorry to miss this https://t.co/Km2CS97Gjc @WeNurses @WeAHPs #WeNurses #timetochange |
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@JennytheM
04 October 2016 20:33
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RT @WeEOLC: #WeEOLC some fab tweets going on over on #WeNurses - will catch up later! |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:33
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#WeNurses Acknowledging this level of sadness and loss- which is so hard- support from team- knowing a magic wand w… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783389641974087681 |
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@nurseleonie27
04 October 2016 20:33
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@puncpalfrey16 @WeNurses it's a very sensitive issue and different spiritual/personal beliefs also have a great influence #wenurses |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:33
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@AgencyNurse Sometimes I've found they can talk on the phone but can't bear to talk face to face #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:33
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@punc_h_dodger it really is the littlest things that mean the most #WeNurses |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:34
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@4AdsthePoet Could not agree more #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:34
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Yes i can see how this would work ... or even at a time and space of their choosing #WeNurses https://t.co/2sN7IY5WxW |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:34
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#WeNurses also important often it is not DEATH people want to talk about or their grief, it is their love one. They want to remember them |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:34
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Acknowledging this level of sadness and loss- which is so hard- support from team- knowing a magic wand won't h… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:34
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Acknowledging this level of sadness and loss- which is so hard- support from team- knowing a magic wand won't h… |
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@oh_nicola
04 October 2016 20:34
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RT @4AdsthePoet: This should be on the wall of every hospital #WeNurses https://t.co/1QfovXJ74Y |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:35
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@AgencyNurse @WeNurses thank you Teresa, putting the patient first is paramount, we must remember the sensitivity of the subject #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:35
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@PUNCstruth @WeNurses #WeNurses a valid point- when I first started and experienced my first patient loss- I didn't know what to do/say/move |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:35
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Yes i think it's helpful to know whats out there #WeNurses https://t.co/h9HgJ4gYnj |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:35
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@WeNurses fabulous new bereavement service on iow thanks to @EarlMBHospice @kissypuppy Very reassuring that families in safe hands #wenurses |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:35
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RT @4AdsthePoet: #WeNurses also important often it is not DEATH people want to talk about or their grief, it is their love one. They want t… |
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@nurseleonie27
04 October 2016 20:35
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@WeNurses Bereavement specialist nurses, @mariecurieuk and other hospices are a great network of support #WeNurses |
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@punc89hols
04 October 2016 20:35
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Listening to bereaved parents can help the parent understand about their own grief. Many seek support outside their own family #WeNurses |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:35
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@AgencyNurse Agreed. The grieving process is different for every family/individual. It's about what is best for them. #WeNurses |
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@grannie_wise
04 October 2016 20:35
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RT @4AdsthePoet: This should be on the wall of every hospital #WeNurses https://twitter.com/puncmandyh16/status/783388962333360128 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:35
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@spencer_sian @AgencyNurse Try and do follow up bereavement visits not just right afterwards #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:35
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RT @NHS_RobW: @4AdsthePoet sorry to miss this https://nhsrobwebster.com/2016/10/02/there-is-always-hope-help-and-life/ @WeNurses @WeAHPs #WeNurses #timetochange |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:35
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RT @NHS_RobW: @4AdsthePoet sorry to miss this https://nhsrobwebster.com/2016/10/02/there-is-always-hope-help-and-life/ @WeNurses @WeAHPs #WeNurses #timetochange |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:35
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@4AdsthePoet #wenurses it is happier to talk about them when they were alive and cherish positive memories, rather than dwell on the sad end |
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@PUNC16young122
04 October 2016 20:36
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RT @4AdsthePoet: This should be on the wall of every hospital #WeNurses https://twitter.com/puncmandyh16/status/783388962333360128 |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:36
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@nurseleonie27 @puncpalfrey16 check out concurrent chat about spirituality on now via #WeEOLC or after #WeNurses both chats archived at 9pm |
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@nicolabell25
04 October 2016 20:36
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@4AdsthePoet they want to laugh and share good memories in a safe place, not feeling judged by doing that #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:36
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@PUNC16Clair @WeNurses listening also key - we may want to talk about death but do the people we care for ? #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:36
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @4AdsthePoet #wenurses it is happier to talk about them when they were alive and cherish positive memories, rather than… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:36
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Nicely said #WeNurses https://t.co/ztK1MTFMoS |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:36
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RT @WeNurses: @nurseleonie27 @puncpalfrey16 check out concurrent chat about spirituality on now via #WeEOLC or after #WeNurses both chats a… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @VickiJNurse: @spencer_sian @AgencyNurse Try and do follow up bereavement visits not just right afterwards #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:37
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I've looked after patient's long term and seen them with family, always hurts when they die nothing softens the blow 1/2 #wenurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @lilian_wittman: #WeNurses hi everyone there are some good counselling services out there, also hospital based ones if in patients |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @nicolabell25: @4AdsthePoet they want to laugh and share good memories in a safe place, not feeling judged by doing that #WeNurses |
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@palf_abi
04 October 2016 20:37
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@nurseleonie27 @WeNurses defiantly, and us as future nurses have to take that on board, respect and learn from that #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @AgencyNurse: Nicely said #WeNurses https://t.co/ztK1MTFMoS |
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@JanJancsmith
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think that @4AdsthePoet articulated this well in her blog #WeNurses https://t.co/RY4mkxK3Kp |
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@LearnPEOLC
04 October 2016 20:37
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RT @WeEOLC: #WeEOLC some fab tweets going on over on #WeNurses - will catch up later! |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:37
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@nicolabell25 definitely #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:38
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#WeNurses opport 4 families to be sad/angry/frustrated/walk alongside the range of emotions- knowing that you will… https://t.co/YKKsg7JoGO |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:38
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@JFr4ser @PUNCresurgam parents often face the loss of a child's potential life ahead from diagnosis at birth. Devastating #wenurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:38
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RT @VickiJNurse: @spencer_sian @AgencyNurse Try and do follow up bereavement visits not just right afterwards #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:38
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses opport 4 families to be sad/angry/frustrated/walk alongside the range of emotions- knowing that you will still… |
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@JoyWharton1
04 October 2016 20:38
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RT @WeNurses: @nurseleonie27 @puncpalfrey16 check out concurrent chat about spirituality on now via #WeEOLC or after #WeNurses both chats a… |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:38
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But I've found just a phone call even to say, 'hi, I want you to know we're thinking about you' means an awful lot 2/2 #wenurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:38
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#wenurses https://t.co/5ffA1ouTtz |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:38
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@spencer_sian yes knowing that its ok to feel that way and feeling listened to #WeNurses |
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@LearnPEOLC
04 October 2016 20:39
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@WeNurses @WeEOLC multitasking #WeEOLC #WeNurses #WeLDN |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:39
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#WeNurses @AgencyNurse Active listening holistic whole family support and a good package of contact details with supported follow up |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:39
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@robert_sidwell I find looking after children that are the same age as my own particularly hard. #wenurses |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:39
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RT @learnhospice: @WeNurses @WeEOLC multitasking #WeEOLC #WeNurses #WeLDN |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:39
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NEXT QUESTION What are the health and well being implications of living with death? #WeNurses https://t.co/MGWobxp3xC |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:40
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RT @WeNurses: NEXT QUESTION What are the health and well being implications of living with death? #WeNurses https://t.co/MGWobxp3xC |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:40
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Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@nicolabell25
04 October 2016 20:40
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@cara_mercer yes indeed #WeNurses |
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@HealthUKTD
04 October 2016 20:40
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RT @spencer_sian: #WeNurses Acknowledging this level of sadness and loss- which is so hard- support from team- knowing a magic wand won't h… |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:40
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RT @4AdsthePoet: #WeNurses also important often it is not DEATH people want to talk about or their grief, it is their love one. They want t… |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:40
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#wenurses being there holding someone's hand saying everything is ok as they take their last breath brings them hope and relief to them |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:41
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RT @AgencyNurse: @spencer_sian yes knowing that its ok to feel that way and feeling listened to #WeNurses |
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@nicolabell25
04 October 2016 20:41
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@WeNurses I've just arrived to this chat, are we talking for pts and their families or us as hcp's #WeNurses |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:41
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@hepworth_becky @PUNCresurgam I can imagine. Heartbreaking even from a distance #wenurses |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:42
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@hepworth_becky #wenurses I fully agree becky |
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@CustoperSmith
04 October 2016 20:42
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RT @AgencyNurse: Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:42
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@AgencyNurse @WeNurses Totally agree, for example they may not have accepted their mortality yet #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:42
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Seeing friends, loved ones, classmates die multiple times must be incredibly difficult #WeNurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/783391195447881730 |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:43
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@spencer_sian @PUNC16Leanne_T @WeNurses @4AdsthePoet it's so important to have ongoing support, as grief is a very long process.#WeNurses |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:43
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@WeNurses #wenurses high anxiety? hesitation to really 'live' life? fear that pushing the boundaries may bring it on sooner? |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:43
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#wenurses https://t.co/NvEqLTBG1E |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:43
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#WeNurses certainly in my circle there is a very high rate of deaths of mums of very sick children from conditions unrelated child's |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:43
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#WeNurses there so much more opp to read- study- learn about death and living with a life limiting condition- Twitter learning with @WeEOLC |
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@JoyWharton1
04 October 2016 20:43
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RT @AgencyNurse: Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:43
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Definitely needed #WeNurses https://t.co/srEfar1JK1 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:44
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@AgencyNurse Incredibly difficult but need to know that we will support them the best we can #WeNurses |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:44
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@AgencyNurse #WeEOLC #WeNurses totally... |
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@lilian_wittman
04 October 2016 20:44
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#WeNurses watching a loved one deteriorate whether young or older is never easy, coping with sadness before grief starts |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:44
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I think this is key - but it worries me that (beyond CYP nursing) this can be forgotten #WeNurses https://t.co/6fxF7Jq4Fr |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:44
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RT @4AdsthePoet: Definitely needed #WeNurses https://t.co/srEfar1JK1 |
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@PUNC16Leanne_T
04 October 2016 20:44
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@puncsarehowell @spencer_sian @WeNurses @4AdsthePoet #wenurses i agree, things can emerge years later and certain things trigger memories |
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@NRCUK
04 October 2016 20:44
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Have been working with many Child Death Overview Panels this year, strong will to improve bereavement from noted room to improve #WeNurses |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:45
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RT @lilian_wittman: #WeNurses watching a loved one deteriorate whether young or older is never easy, coping with sadness before grief starts |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:45
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#WeNurses Also be kind to yourself- find a thing or a way of supporting your emotional health as a student and when… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783392656290373632 |
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@punc16donna
04 October 2016 20:45
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It can affect people emotionally, physically and mentally. Depression is a major health implication. #WeNurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/783391195447881730 |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:45
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#WeNurses as HCPs think the effects on us tend to feed excuses for us to do our bad habits same as none HCPs just our exposure more frequent |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:45
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @puncsarehowell @spencer_sian @WeNurses @4AdsthePoet #wenurses i agree, things can emerge years later and certain thing… |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:45
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@punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth @WeNurses be kind, and take time to listen and just be there. Be lead by family + colleagues #wenurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:45
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@VickiJNurse i keep thinking of the death and dying parts of nursing assessments that often just say the name of funeral home #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:46
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RT @PUNC16Leanne_T: @WeNurses #wenurses high anxiety? hesitation to really 'live' life? fear that pushing the boundaries may bring it on so… |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:46
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#wenurses I think student nurses need more induction in his field to prepare them more for what they will encounter |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:46
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@NRCUK been told some CCG only fund bereavement support for parents if surviving children as comes from paed budget #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:47
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People literally losing the will to live such as elderly spouses who just don't want to be here anymore after 65+ years together #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:47
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RT @AgencyNurse: Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:47
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RT @WeEOLC: @AgencyNurse #WeEOLC #WeNurses totally... |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:47
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@PUNCamy @WeNurses yes agree can have a huge ongoing effect and sometimes grief as a long term problem, is not fully recognised #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:47
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@WeNurses Its so important that the right help & advice is given openly or displayed appropriately for individuals to access #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:47
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Wow this is very worrying ... we wonder if there is any evidence to support your experience ? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/4AdsthePoet/status/783392095671377920 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:47
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@AgencyNurse I know, Agree re crossover with #WeEOLC trying to address spiritual needs as well as physical #WeNurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:47
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@punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth although incredibly sad, and ok to b sad, it is not your grief. Not your family member... #wenurses |
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@punc89hols
04 October 2016 20:48
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Spiritual understanding. Help deal with stress. Helps to find a postive meaning#wenurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:48
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RT @4AdsthePoet: #WeNurses certainly in my circle there is a very high rate of deaths of mums of very sick children from conditions unrelat… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:48
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@VickiJNurse it's such a hard conversation to have .... the work of death cafes so very important #WeNurses |
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@JoyWharton1
04 October 2016 20:48
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RT @VickiJNurse: @AgencyNurse I know, Agree re crossover with #WeEOLC trying to address spiritual needs as well as physical #WeNurses |
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@puncrits
04 October 2016 20:48
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@WeNurses #wenurses A impact is unmeasurable, especially emotion. That might affect on physical side. believe in mind and body connect |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:48
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Many parents feel the same if they loose their child, esp only child #WeNurses https://twitter.com/cara_mercer/status/783393032636891136 |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:48
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My first tweet chat ! (: #WeNurses https://twitter.com/agencynurse/status/783389250658111488 |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:48
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An important point #WeNurses https://twitter.com/lilian_wittman/status/783392364329066496 |
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@emiliemcswiggan
04 October 2016 20:48
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Important, thought-provoking, compassionate conversations happening on #WeNurses tag right now. Worth tuning in. https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/782829248109248512 |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:49
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Death can seriously affect relationships within families and marriages, especially the death of a child. #wenurses |
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@PUNC14beth
04 October 2016 20:49
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RT @WeNurses: An important point #WeNurses https://twitter.com/lilian_wittman/status/783392364329066496 |
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@punc16donna
04 October 2016 20:49
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Completely agree @robert_sidwell #WeNurses https://twitter.com/robert_sidwell/status/783392969659473920 |
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@tbrooks1976
04 October 2016 20:49
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RT @AgencyNurse: Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:49
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@AgencyNurse Have found sometimes starting a discussion on DNACPR can begin a chat about what pts and families feeling/need #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:49
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Well said Sian #WeNurses https://twitter.com/spencer_sian/status/783392656290373632 |
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@robert_sidwell
04 October 2016 20:50
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@sarah_janemade your welcome #wenurses |
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@NRCUK
04 October 2016 20:50
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@4AdsthePoet more can be done multi agency to look at families and support their needs #nobrainer but funding don't work like that #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:50
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I know Uni of Stirling were thinking yrs back of doing a study but don't know if it happened #WeNurses https://t.co/GHFF7hqcc3 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:50
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Speechless ! #weNurses https://t.co/M9B0MXa9Xp |
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@PUNC_MWilson
04 October 2016 20:50
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#WeNurses although death is inevitable, it never gets easier to deal with. Death is lonely, depressing and upsetting for all. |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:51
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@VickiJNurse agree it can be a good starting point - but we do need to ensure that people know we are here to support when needed #Wenurses |
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@sarah_janemad
04 October 2016 20:51
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@hepworth_becky @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth @WeNurses agree can't help but think of Mary Angelou #WeNurses https://t.co/zyZZaHTn5C |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:51
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@VickiJNurse also i think that asking family members "how are YOU?" is vital #WeNurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:51
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@4AdsthePoet @NRCUK that is terrible! #WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:52
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#weNurses The best conversation was with a play specialist when I was 19 "yes your sad,but how do you think they fe… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/783394293528588288 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:52
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As a student nurse I remember a district nurse doing this .... and it has always stuck with me #WeNurses https://twitter.com/AgencyNurse/status/783394149575692290 |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:52
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@AgencyNurse Yes! We talk about the 'doorstep' conversations just as you are leaving "Oh Nurse can I just ask..." #WeNurses |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:52
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RT @sarah_janemad: @hepworth_becky @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth @WeNurses agree can't help but think of Mary Angelou #WeNurses htt… |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:52
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Love this quote #WeNurses https://twitter.com/sarah_janemad/status/783394135252295680 |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:52
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@4AdsthePoet @cara_mercer I've seen that with friends -sudden loss of young adult only child.Parents bewildered on how to readjust #wenurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:52
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Yes indeed ! #WeNurses https://twitter.com/VickiJNurse/status/783394400013541376 |
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@PUNC16young122
04 October 2016 20:52
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RT @sarah_janemad: @hepworth_becky @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth @WeNurses agree can't help but think of Mary Angelou #WeNurses htt… |
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@AnnWagstaff
04 October 2016 20:52
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#WeNurses social isolation, the fear of life after death, lack of control causing social anxiety and fear. |
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@caroline_cdc
04 October 2016 20:53
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#WeNurses helping a relative to allow dying person to 'see' their feelings, not hiding, helps them to move forward and breathe fresh air |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:53
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RT @sarah_janemad: @hepworth_becky @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth @WeNurses agree can't help but think of Mary Angelou #WeNurses htt… |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:53
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RT @AgencyNurse: Speechless ! #weNurses https://t.co/M9B0MXa9Xp |
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@punc16donna
04 October 2016 20:53
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Not forgetting turning to alcohol and drugs #addiction #WeNurses https://t.co/CS0jmZDgBJ |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:53
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@WeNurses often ends in feelings of guilt and anger, resulting in depression/anxiety and a general deterioration of health.#WeNurses |
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@spencer_sian
04 October 2016 20:53
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#WeNurses it is different- you learn to find coping mechanisms- time out to reflect- keeping a reflective diary rea… https://t.co/dzbANqrRQo |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:53
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@puncmandyh16 As can chronic illness & disabilities #wenurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:54
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RT @spencer_sian: #weNurses The best conversation was with a play specialist when I was 19 "yes your sad,but how do you think they feelther… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:54
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RT @spencer_sian: #weNurses The best conversation was with a play specialist when I was 19 "yes your sad,but how do you think they feelther… |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:54
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RT @PUNC_MWilson: #WeNurses although death is inevitable, it never gets easier to deal with. Death is lonely, depressing and upsetting for… |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:54
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@spencer_sian now that puts it all in perspective #WeNurses |
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@PUNC16young122
04 October 2016 20:54
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#WeNurses listening to someone is key, really listening to what they are saying. offer your hand to hold, and really listen. #support |
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@lilian_wittman
04 October 2016 20:54
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#WeNurses we all need to recognise when it's ok to take a step back to protect ourselves too - we need to be fit enough to care |
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@PUNC16Clair
04 October 2016 20:55
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@WeNurses I also think its really important that organisations have palliative care specialists who have the experience #WeNurses |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:55
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@WeNurses Being present and available some families feel people avoid them as they don't know what to say #WeNurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @AgencyNurse: Seeing friends, loved ones, classmates die multiple times must be incredibly difficult #WeNurses https://t.co/ksgJNrkHRM |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @VickiJNurse: @WeNurses Being present and available some families feel people avoid them as they don't know what to say #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:55
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Yes it struck us that as Adam was dying staff never asks us how we were #WeNurses https://t.co/pWREtlm0fo |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @VickiJNurse: @AgencyNurse I know, Agree re crossover with #WeEOLC trying to address spiritual needs as well as physical #WeNurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @AgencyNurse: @VickiJNurse it's such a hard conversation to have .... the work of death cafes so very important #WeNurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:55
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@4AdsthePoet @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth difference between sadness and true grief. Nothing wrong with shedding tears.. #wenurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @AgencyNurse: @VickiJNurse also i think that asking family members "how are YOU?" is vital #WeNurses |
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@helenfindlay
04 October 2016 20:55
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RT @VickiJNurse: @AgencyNurse Yes! We talk about the 'doorstep' conversations just as you are leaving "Oh Nurse can I just ask..." #WeNurses |
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@cara_mercer
04 October 2016 20:56
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Just be yourself, be honest and be whatever patients, carers or families need you to be #wenurses |
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@puncsarehowell
04 October 2016 20:56
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@PUNCamy @WeNurses maybe for something to be in place for us as health professionals to be aware of vital signs,to help recognise #WeNurses |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:56
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Very true! #WeNurses https://t.co/TvAdGjuiB4 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:56
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@4AdsthePoet Oh Zoe - i am really very sorry to hear that .... its clear we need to get better at this #WeNurses xxx |
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@LearnPEOLC
04 October 2016 20:56
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#WeEOLC #WeNurses @cmf_elca https://t.co/g2SpmtSyh1 has g8 spirituality & EOLC modules https://t.co/zFGx3pUwG8 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:56
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RT @PUNC16young122: #WeNurses listening to someone is key, really listening to what they are saying. offer your hand to hold, and really li… |
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@JoyWharton1
04 October 2016 20:56
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RT @learnhospice: #WeEOLC #WeNurses @cmf_elca https://t.co/g2SpmtSyh1 has g8 spirituality & EOLC modules https://t.co/zFGx3pUwG8 |
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@AnnWagstaff
04 October 2016 20:56
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#Wenurses by being honest, not masking the fact we are human and feel too, but also recognising the grief they are feeling, show empathy |
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@VickiJNurse
04 October 2016 20:57
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@4AdsthePoet @AgencyNurse I know, Still remember families many many years afterwards and they remember me #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:57
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RT @AnnWagstaff: #Wenurses by being honest, not masking the fact we are human and feel too, but also recognising the grief they are feelin… |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:57
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RT @AnnWagstaff: #Wenurses by being honest, not masking the fact we are human and feel too, but also recognising the grief they are feelin… |
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@edwardnorthey
04 October 2016 20:57
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RT @learnhospice: #WeEOLC #WeNurses @cmf_elca https://t.co/g2SpmtSyh1 has g8 spirituality & EOLC modules https://t.co/zFGx3pUwG8 |
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@punc_h_dodger
04 October 2016 20:57
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#WeNurses Be human with them, not unprofessonal just human show the pain we feel too at their loss |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:57
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@CarolynHastie @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth good debriefing is essential. Preserving staff to be able to do it again #wenurses |
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@WeEOLC
04 October 2016 20:58
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RT @learnhospice: #WeEOLC #WeNurses @cmf_elca http://www.e-lfh.org.uk/programmes/end-of-life-care/ has g8 spirituality & EOLC modules https://t.co/zFGx3pUwG8 |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:58
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I think this is worth a share ... Brene Brown on Empathy .. well worth a watch > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Evwgu369Jw #WeNurses #EBP |
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@JulesLewis6
04 October 2016 20:58
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RT @AgencyNurse: Cant help but think there is a role for spiritual care of families who live with death #WeNurses #WeEOLC ... crossover |
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@puncmandyh16
04 October 2016 20:58
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People caring for relatives over a prologued time can also experience a void...feeling they no longer have a sense of purpose #wenurses |
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@BridgetJohnst
04 October 2016 20:58
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RT @learnhospice: #WeEOLC #WeNurses @cmf_elca http://www.e-lfh.org.uk/programmes/end-of-life-care/ has g8 spirituality & EOLC modules https://t.co/zFGx3pUwG8 |
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@PUNCamy
04 October 2016 20:58
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@WeNurses honesty and empathy will put families at ease, so that they don't feel alone #WeNurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:58
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RT @punc_h_dodger: #WeNurses Be human with them, not unprofessonal just human show the pain we feel too at their loss |
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@WeNurses
04 October 2016 20:58
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RT @punc_h_dodger: #WeNurses Be human with them, not unprofessonal just human show the pain we feel too at their loss |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:58
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@AgencyNurse thankfully we did have gr8 support from #NHSTwitter #WeNurses |
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@hepworth_becky
04 October 2016 20:58
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@cara_mercer @4AdsthePoet @punc89hols @spencer_sian @PUNCstruth me too... ?? #wenurses |
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@punc16KerryBH
04 October 2016 20:59
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think this is worth a share ... Brene Brown on Empathy .. well worth a watch > https://t.co/ksMV7PfXO3 #WeNurses #EBP |
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@JulesLewis6
04 October 2016 20:59
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RT @PUNC16young122: #WeNurses listening to someone is key, really listening to what they are saying. offer your hand to hold, and really li… |
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@KaraChrome
04 October 2016 20:59
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think that @4AdsthePoet articulated this well in her blog #WeNurses https://t.co/RY4mkxK3Kp |
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@palf_abi
04 October 2016 20:59
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@PUNC16young122 everyone needs support at some point, whatever support they need! It's so important when helping people #WeNurses #support |
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@4AdsthePoet
04 October 2016 20:59
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RT @AgencyNurse: I think this is worth a share ... Brene Brown on Empathy .. well worth a watch > https://t.co/ksMV7PfXO3 #WeNurses #EBP |
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@JFr4ser
04 October 2016 20:59
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@AgencyNurse nice relative feedback recently(not just me)with comment of how touching they found many staff asking how they were #wenurses |
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@AgencyNurse
04 October 2016 20:59
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@4AdsthePoet Twitter has the very best HCPs ... imagine if we were all in one community ... wow what a healthcare service :) #WeNurses |
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