#WeLDNs - Wednesday 12th October 2016 8pm (GMT Standard Time) #7daysofaction Demanding quality ATU & Inpatient Care

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There are 3,000 people with learning disabilities and/or autistic spectrum disorder who are in an inpatient setting for the purposes of assessment, care and treatment in the UK, 83% of whom were admitted under the Mental Health Act (1983)[1].  In 2012 the Royal College of Psychiatrists (RCP 2014) concluded that the focus for clinical quality audits of ATUs should be cultural change, both at the level of organisations and individual healthcare workers, and on the experience of people with a learning disability,their families and carers.

Monday 18th April 2016 saw the start of a week-long campaign which made use of social media to raise awareness about the experiences of people who were receiving healthcare in ATU settings.  The campaign message was that there are 3,000 human stories behind the numbers.  The campaign was led by families of people who were detained in ATUs.  Over the 7days the campaign ran, 7 families published 7 stories about their family members.  The stories were published on adedicated blog site - https://theatuscandal.wordpress.com/    

The campaign used social media to distribute messages and engage a wide audience who were invited to take action during the 7 days to create new additional content and contributions.  Content generated during the campaign week was posted on the 7 Days of Action Facebook site or on Twitter tagged with the #7DaysofAction hashtag.  During the campaign week 72,580 hits were recorded of people having accessed the campaign blog.

Since the campaign week more families whose family member is in an Assessment and Treatment Unit have come forwards and want to share details oftheir experience of inpatient units for people with a learning disability.  The 10th October 2016 will be a second week of action, this time featuring 36 families who will be sharing their stories about:

1. What led to their family member to be detained in an ATU?

2. How long was their family member detained for?

3. How far was the ATU from their usual home?

The tweet chat will run during the week of the 7 Days of Action campaignin October 2016.  It will examine participant’s views and experience in the following areas:

  1. What are the circumstances which lead to an admission to an ATU?
  2. What examples exist of least restrictive alternatives which are successfully avoiding admission to ATUs?  (How are pre-admission Care & Treatment Reviews supporting admission avoidance?)
  3. What is the evidence base for the challenging behavioural therapies treatments provided in ATU settings?
  4. Whatis the evidence base for the mental health therapies which are provided in ATU settings?
  5. What best practice exists of involving family members and carers in care planning and support for people?
  6. What are the barriers to discharging people from ATUs and where are there examples of successful approaches to stepping people down from inpatient units to community based support?

References 

Royal College ofPsychiatrists (2013). People with learning disability and mental health,behavioural or forensic problems: the role of in-patient services. http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/FR%20ID%2003%20for%20website.pdf

Royal College ofPsychiatrists (2014). National Audit of Learning Disabilities—Feasibility Study(NALD-FS): Findings of the primary and secondary care audit. London: RoyalCollege of Psychiatrists Centre for Quality Improvement. [Online]. http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/Final%20report.pdf

Sheehan, R,Gandesha, A, Hassiotis, A, Gallagher, P, Burnell, M, Jones, G, Kerr, M, Hall,I, Chaplin, R & Crawford, M J (2016). An Audit of the Quality of InpatientCare for Adults with Learning Disability in the UK. British Medical JournalOpen. [Online]. http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/4/e010480.full#ref-32

*Additional EBP Reference added 5/10/16 - James, E. Neary, M and Hatton, C. (2016) Report on the First 7 Days of Action CeDR Briefing Paper 2016:1 Lancaster: Centre for Disability Research To be published on 10th October 2016 Available at http://wp.lancs.ac.uk/cedr/home-page/publications/ 





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Professionals are moments in time, Family is for life.

Brilliantly chaotic is the verdict on the special @WeLDNurses tweetchat which was held in support of the #7daysofaction campaign on 12th October 2016. The campaign, if you have managed to miss the 2.3 million twitter impressions generated from tweets this week, is run by families who have a family member with a learning disability and/or autism who is 1 of the 3,000 people who are detained in Assessment and Treatment Units.  7 out of 10 of whom do not have a health or behaviour support need which requires treatment and 35% of which should be home with their family according to the support plan agreed with the MDT according to the report published this week by the Centre for Disability Research at Lancaster University which formed part of the pre-reading for the tweetchat.

The themes which have emerged this week and which were furiously debated during an hour long tweet chat which generated more than 10 tweets per minute could easily be chunked up into 1 simple sentence – professionals are moments in time, family is for life.  

The most shocking thing about #7daysofaction is how young the people are whose stories are being told.  Most are aged between 16 and 18 when they experience being taken from their families, often placed under section of the Mental Health Act. Years later, up to 10+ years later, the process of getting people home appears to be exceptionally difficult.  

This raises the theme are commissioners focusing on the wrong thing focusing on step down from ATUs. Would attention be better placed redesigning services to avoid admission in the first place?  This would require commissioners being brave enough to redirect resources into home based treatment which included nurses with a specialism in learning disabilities, coordinating with social workers who believe that they are the safeguard of people’s human rights and closing the beds.  Design small and force change into the system.

So – if you do 1 think this week – check out the Storify of the campaign which captures the tears, frustration, hope and joy of the campaign and is a great way to reflect on the key themes which have emerged this week to take into your next professional supervision/CPD - https://storify.com/ElaineLJames/7-days-of-action-human


Thanks to @elaineljames for hosting this #7daysofaction chat. As the second #homesnothospitals chat professionals were actively reminded by family members how important it is to be on the same page, that knowledge, skills and experience might provide professional credibility, but families will judge on actions and outcomes. 


If - like Elaine- you have a burning desire to host a WeLDNurses chat check the Host a Chat page, fill in the form and send it in!

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 #WeLDNs transcript

 
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:00
Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like to say hello?
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:00
It certainly is - welcome to the tweetchat for #7daysofaction at #weldns https://twitter.com/RobMitch92/status/786279983803138048
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:00
RT @RobMitch92: I've put my lounge suit on. Bert Bacharach is in the background and I'm ready to chat #weldns Hope this is the right #
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:00
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like t…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:00
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like t…
@dmarsden49
12 October 2016 20:00
@RobMitch92 I've got a hoodie and Steve Reich! #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:01
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi everyone ?? Ross here #waves from Northumberland #WeLDNs
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:01
Hello all time to chat #WeLDNs
@dmarsden49
12 October 2016 20:01
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames evening all, Daniel here in dark Rochester! #WeLDNs
@chrishattoncedr
12 October 2016 20:01
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello - here briefly until train gets home! #WeLDNs
@KayFSheldon
12 October 2016 20:01
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like t…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:01
Welcome to the chat @MarkNeary1 & @Markliamb #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:01
RT @chrishattoncedr: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello - here briefly until train gets home! #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:01
RT @dmarsden49: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames evening all, Daniel here in dark Rochester! #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:01
RT @ross_6479: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi everyone ?? Ross here #waves from Northumberland #WeLDNs
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:01
RT @WeLDnurses: With 15 minutes to go until #weldns #7daysofaction chat, grab yourself and cuppa and tuck into the prechat! https://t.co/go…
@lyn_las
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @ross_6479: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi everyone ?? Ross here #waves from Northumberland #WeLDNs
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @Mwharvey: Hello all time to chat #WeLDNs
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @chrishattoncedr: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello - here briefly until train gets home! #WeLDNs
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:02
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi! I'm Julie from #7daysofaction #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @Mwharvey: Hello all time to chat #WeLDNs
@johnpopham
12 October 2016 20:02
Hello. John here in Huddersfield #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:02
The questions will appear from this account this week. don't forget your #weldns hashtag and if you have links and evidence use #ebp too
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:02
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello from a Premier Inn in London with rather slow internet connection. #weldns #7daysofaction
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @ElaineLJames: It certainly is - welcome to the tweetchat for #7daysofaction at #weldns https://t.co/WZCRUk3e1u
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @RobMitch92: I've put my lounge suit on. Bert Bacharach is in the background and I'm ready to chat #weldns Hope this is the right #
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @RobMitch92: I've put my lounge suit on. Bert Bacharach is in the background and I'm ready to chat #weldns Hope this is the right #
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:02
Quality counts Professor #weldns https://t.co/vWmbbR92I7
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:02
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like t…
@JackSkinner81
12 October 2016 20:02
#weldns Hello… I'm not staying I have to listen to Bert Bacharach
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:03
Evening all, mostly lurking tonight but you know what a noisy lurker I am!! #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi! I'm Julie from #7daysofaction #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @chrishattoncedr: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello - here briefly until train gets home! #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @dmarsden49: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames evening all, Daniel here in dark Rochester! #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @WeLDnurses: The questions will appear from this account this week. don't forget your #weldns hashtag and if you have links and evidence…
@AdultPSWNetwork
12 October 2016 20:03
Our Network Co-Chairs @RobMitch92 & @Mwharvey waving #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @ElaineLJames: Quality counts Professor #weldns https://t.co/vWmbbR92I7
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @NDTiSue: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello from a Premier Inn in London with rather slow internet connection. #weldns #7daysofaction
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:03
RT @NDTiSue: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello from a Premier Inn in London with rather slow internet connection. #weldns #7daysofaction
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:04
RT @WeLDnurses: The questions will appear from this account this week. don't forget your #weldns hashtag and if you have links and evidence…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:04
Hi Hazel ?? #weldns https://twitter.com/hazelwatsonnhse/status/786281096698793984
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:04
RT @johnpopham: Hello. John here in Huddersfield #WeLDNs
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:04
RT @WeLDnurses: The questions will appear from this account this week. don't forget your #weldns hashtag and if you have links and evidence…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:04
We love a lurker! #weldns https://twitter.com/salsa442/status/786281037047422976
@Markliamb
12 October 2016 20:04
@ElaineLJames @MarkNeary1 Hi Elaine - Hi everybody #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:04
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hi! I'm Julie from #7daysofaction #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:04
Hi Kate #weldns https://twitter.com/katelinhart/status/786281123156557824
@chris_dlamini
12 October 2016 20:04
Sorry Miss l am late. I missed the bus. Ok if l #lurk today #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:04
Evening #weldns https://twitter.com/asifamhp/status/786281223303925761
@Ermintrude2
12 October 2016 20:04
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all! Thanks for joining us tonight and for @elaineljames for hosting this #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Who'd like t…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:04
Hi welcome to #weldns @OfAction7 https://twitter.com/OfAction7/status/786281260176052224
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:04
Hello from me #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:05
First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:05
AMHPs always welcome #weldns @asifamhp https://t.co/eHsRem8vr8
@Ermintrude2
12 October 2016 20:05
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames hi - I'm following but not sure I'll have much expertise to contribute! #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:05
Ha ha, many I've been to without! #weldns https://t.co/aC7ElpWH7E
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:05
#weldns Leo here from @OfAction7 #7daysofaction good evening all.
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:05
Well hello Annie ?? #weldns https://t.co/jWILq5evLX
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:05
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses Hello there! 3rd Year student nurse from @TeesUniSOHSC #weldns
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:05
@chris_dlamini You can lurk with me ??#weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:05
Brilliant hi @HazelWatsonNHSE we are at #weldns tonigh https://t.co/boIfcj6TJu
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @WeLDnurses: We love a lurker! #weldns https://t.co/VviPjkgytz
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @JackSkinner81: #weldns Hello… I'm not staying I have to listen to Bert Bacharach
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:05
Hi Annie welcome to #weldns https://twitter.com/anniemillarLDN/status/786281299816357888
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:05
RT @salsa442: Evening all, mostly lurking tonight but you know what a noisy lurker I am!! #WeLDNs
@LD_Northumbria
12 October 2016 20:06
@WeLDnurses lurking ???? #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:06
RT @AdultPSWNetwork: Our Network Co-Chairs @RobMitch92 & @Mwharvey waving #weldns
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:06
Also be pleased to be back #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:06
#weldns am sure you will! https://t.co/P0qzJh2yMY
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:06
@ross_6479 @HazelWatsonNHSE don't forget the #weldns in your tweets, otherwise they won't included in the transcript and blog!
@sarahtturvey
12 October 2016 20:06
RT @WeLDnurses: This is your 30 minute warning for @elaineljames #weldns #7daysofaction chat. Check the prechat reading at https://t.co/go7…
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:06
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses thank you.. its been a while #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:06
Hi Leo #weldns https://t.co/fAAemKoh8q
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:06
#WeLDNs hi all!
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:07
@WeLDnurses Extreme or prolonged distressed behaviour, mental health illness, family breakdown - seen these result in ATU adm #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:07
@WeLDnurses I have seen mainly from ind becoming unwell resulting in need for a period of nursing/med assessment #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:07
And we're off #weldns question 1 https://t.co/OSpXdO4TN5
@dmarsden49
12 October 2016 20:07
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:07
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:07
@ElaineLJames #weldns....goddit!
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:07
#weldns I am here
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:07
Hi @MarkNeary1 #weldns https://twitter.com/MarkNeary1/status/786281487402409984
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:07
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:07
RT @WeLDnurses: @ross_6479 @HazelWatsonNHSE don't forget the #weldns in your tweets, otherwise they won't included in the transcript and bl…
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:08
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames Hello! Waving & ready 2 go in WeShropshire! #WeLDNs
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:08
@WeLDnurses Panic mainly. Provider failure. Fatigue #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:08
#weldns https://twitter.com/mwharvey/status/786282118213021696
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:08
#weldns Breakdown in services. A request for respite. No support available.
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:08
Hi Phil #weldns https://twitter.com/PhilHolmesPPF/status/786282024931827712
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:08
RT @ElaineLJames: Hi welcome to #weldns @OfAction7 https://twitter.com/OfAction7/status/786281260176052224
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:08
RT @ElaineLJames: And we're off #weldns question 1 https://twitter.com/WeLDnurses/status/786281542813376512
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:08
So @WeLDnurses i guess the first issue is the view of behaviour as a reason to admit and or the separate issue of MH presentation #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:08
@anniemillarLDN @ElaineLJames It has, welcome! #WeLDNs
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:08
Sometimes it is not the person it is the system that leads to the admission #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @ElaineLJames: Hi Leo #weldns https://twitter.com/OfAction7/status/786281594504024064
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @ross_6479: @WeLDnurses I have seen mainly from ind becoming unwell resulting in need for a period of nursing/med assessment #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:09
Hi @EmadLilo great to see our AMHP collegues here tonight at #weldns https://twitter.com/EmadLilo/status/786282243031433216
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:09
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses Community care not up to the job #weldns
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:09
@WeLDnurses mainly breakdown in placement, family unable to cope, monitor anti pysch meds, challenging behaviour causing risk #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:09
#WeLDNs sad to see & increased risk of family breakdown https://twitter.com/salsa442/status/786282077213880320
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:09
@RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses Provider failure is a good point actually,I've experienced ATU adm as a result of this #WeLDNs
@4AdsthePoet
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @ElaineLJames: And we're off #weldns question 1 https://twitter.com/WeLDnurses/status/786281542813376512
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:09
Particularly lack of ability for proactive work #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @RobMitch92: @WeLDnurses Panic mainly. Provider failure. Fatigue #weldns
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:09
Inappropriate living areas, bad peer influences, family circumstances, lack of staff capability to handle behaviours #weldns
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @MarkNeary1: #weldns Breakdown in services. A request for respite. No support available.
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:09
RT @MarkNeary1: #weldns Breakdown in services. A request for respite. No support available.
@JackSkinner81
12 October 2016 20:09
@WeLDnurses #weldns Lack of alternatives? Panic? Poor management or supervision?
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:09
.@RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses #weldns risk aversion 'duty of care'
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:10
Second #weldns question! https://t.co/5bR9cDc4na
@billrlove
12 October 2016 20:10
#weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor local provision
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:10
I really want to say thank u out loud to @MarkNeary1 @OfAction7 & our hosts tonight?? they r amazing & I am in awe #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:10
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Sometimes it is not the person it is the system that leads to the admission #weldns
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:10
@PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses Yes you're right but I think the impact of that produces panic, desperation & bad decisions. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:10
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Sometimes it is not the person it is the system that leads to the admission #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:10
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses the rare times I've detained breakdown of placement leading to distress expressed as aggression #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:10
#weldns https://t.co/1MpZNNUTlD
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:10
@LynneBowers2 @WeLDnurses As health led respite decreases the risk of family breakdown increases IMExp #WeLDNs
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:11
RT @asifamhp: I really want to say thank u out loud to @MarkNeary1 @OfAction7 & our hosts tonight?? they r amazing & I am in awe #weldns
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:11
RT @WeLDnurses: Second #weldns question! https://t.co/5bR9cDc4na
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:11
RT @WeLDnurses: Second #weldns question! https://t.co/5bR9cDc4na
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:11
#weldns question 1 makes me think of this #7daysofaction full of stories of people who are "safe" but unhappy https://t.co/XEwCavf8pr
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:11
RT @WeLDnurses: Second #weldns question! https://t.co/5bR9cDc4na
@billrlove
12 October 2016 20:11
#weldns also result of failure to do early planning even when risk is identified early
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:11
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:11
I've seen this too, plus problematic transitions from YP to Adult #weldns https://twitter.com/ofaction7/status/786282919627194368
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:11
I've seen some good work from crisis teams, good interventions. Main barrier is definitely funding #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:11
Hi @billrlove delighted to see you here with us at #weldns tonight supporting #7daysofaction https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786282808729894912
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@Ermintrude2
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns question 1 makes me think of this #7daysofaction full of stories of people who are "safe" but unhappy https://t.c…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:12
Good point #weldns https://t.co/nOnqoGN4GJ
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns question 1 makes me think of this #7daysofaction full of stories of people who are "safe" but unhappy https://t.c…
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @ross_6479: I've seen this too, plus problematic transitions from YP to Adult #weldns https://t.co/LB5VBHwx7N
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:12
@salsa442 @WeLDnurses In truth I think actual assessment & treatment is not even really expected. It's a holding cell. #weldns
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:12
@WeLDnurses Intensive outreach, behavioural support teams, collaboration between services can help avoid admission #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:12
@salsa442 @LynneBowers2 @WeLDnurses Interesting, why health led respite? #weldns i'm not sure i know what that is
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @WeLDnurses: First #weldns question tonight. https://t.co/FN32nvLlXq
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:12
@WeLDnurses use of behavioural assts giving support from our challenging behaviour team in patients current placement with success #weldns
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:12
#weldns Anybody been involved in community/pre-admission CTRs? Success rate great but sadly still small numbers
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @ross_6479: I've seen this too, plus problematic transitions from YP to Adult #weldns https://twitter.com/ofaction7/status/786282919627194368
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:12
RT @MarkNeary1: #weldns Breakdown in services. A request for respite. No support available.
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:12
@WeLDnurses I worked on some great placements with teams/ind. in place to do just this, saw many successful outcomes #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @kirstytaylor193: I've seen some good work from crisis teams, good interventions. Main barrier is definitely funding #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:13
#weldns sorry to hear this - but so important that you are willing to talk about stephen https://twitter.com/OfAction7/status/786282919627194368
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @ross_6479: Good point #weldns https://twitter.com/chris_dlamini/status/786283019883704320
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:13
Love lurkers :) #weldns https://twitter.com/chris_dlamini/status/786283377842393088
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:13
#Weldns it is imperative #AMHPs engage in this
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @salsa442: @WeLDnurses Intensive outreach, behavioural support teams, collaboration between services can help avoid admission #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @Mwharvey: @salsa442 @LynneBowers2 @WeLDnurses Interesting, why health led respite? #weldns i'm not sure i know what that is
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:13
Hi Karen! #weldns https://twitter.com/Nurse2Coach/status/786282296592650240
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:13
Is it just lack of funding or capacity of community services or is there a culture problem? @ElaineLJames #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns sorry to hear this - but so important that you are willing to talk about stephen https://t.co/M43axfvepT
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:13
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns question 1 makes me think of this #7daysofaction full of stories of people who are "safe" but unhappy https://t.c…
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:13
@DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses and sometimes, it is the system that precipitates the behaviour/MH presentation that triggers admission #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:13
#weldns https://t.co/IuRKimjdkH
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:14
@ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:14
Thank you for joining us tonight Julie #weldns https://t.co/60VsT2RcXe
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:14
@RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses I'm not sure people who make these decisions would think they were panicking. Skewed perceptions of risk. #WeLDNs
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:14
really important that all work together in a no-blame culture so that it is okay to take the risks needed #7daysofaction #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:14
@WeLDnurses Silo budgeting, lack of imagination and will b community services and LAs #WeLDNs
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:14
Hi @billrlove Was only a matter of time before @ElaineLJames took on Mary Berry #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:14
Hi Kirsty #weldns https://t.co/b1PWsNGMTP
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:14
RT @WeLDnurses: Second #weldns question! https://t.co/5bR9cDc4na
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:14
Has limited social care respite made admission more/less likely? #weldns
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:14
@Mwharvey @LynneBowers2 @WeLDnurses Sorry,speaking from exp. used to manage a nurse led respite service #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:15
RT @EmadLilo: #Weldns it is imperative #AMHPs engage in this
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:15
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses Silo budgeting, lack of imagination and will b community services and LAs #WeLDNs
@dmarsden49
12 October 2016 20:15
@RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses is it inevitable that homes hospitals and prison cells become an uncomfortable venn diagram? #weldns
@WorkAwayDad
12 October 2016 20:15
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns question 1 makes me think of this #7daysofaction full of stories of people who are "safe" but unhappy https://t.c…
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:15
@chris_dlamini I'm a very noisy lurker #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:15
#weldns https://twitter.com/asifamhp/status/786283893074911232
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:15
@billrlove @WeLDnurses Hey Bill - how are you?? It's been a long time stranger! #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:15
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: #weldns Anybody been involved in community/pre-admission CTRs? Success rate great but sadly still small numbers
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:15
@HazelWatsonNHSE I know of one person for whom blue light CTR was a disaster #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:15
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Is it just lack of funding or capacity of community services or is there a culture problem? @ElaineLJames #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:15
#weldns AMHP role in understanding and upholding human rights legislation crucial https://t.co/UP3uGSnu3a
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:16
I think we need to understand the term respite also as it is also potentially and institutional response #weldns @HazelWatsonNHSE
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:16
good work happening in Plymouth to bring people back home and provide individualised support #7daysofaction #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:16
RT @MarkNeary1: @ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:16
Massive amount of pressure on families #weldns https://t.co/xWQ5jY9be3
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:16
@OfAction7 @MarkNeary1 hi Leo plz do ?? #WeLDNs
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:16
@PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses I've rarely seen admission to ATU has a measured & planned thing. It's usually conceived & done in a day #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:16
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:16
would love to hear more about this Sue #weldns https://twitter.com/NDTiSue/status/786284328061837312
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:16
RT @ross_6479: Massive amount of pressure on families #weldns https://twitter.com/ofaction7/status/786284028290801664
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:16
RT @EmadLilo: #Weldns it is imperative #AMHPs engage in this
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:17
RT @NDTiSue: good work happening in Plymouth to bring people back home and provide individualised support #7daysofaction #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:17
This is problematic, needs to be family centred response too #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786284109031243779
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:17
@billrlove #WeLDNs what can we say are ingredients of good local provision?
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:17
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns AMHP role in understanding and upholding human rights legislation crucial https://t.co/UP3uGSnu3a
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:17
RT @ross_6479: Massive amount of pressure on families #weldns https://t.co/xWQ5jY9be3
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:17
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames not sure as many activists AMHP any more they stopped challenging #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:17
#weldns #7daysofaction would love to know more about where we've seen successful admission avoidance! https://t.co/T4fsOG0IlB
@S411Y100
12 October 2016 20:17
@HazelWatsonNHSE #weldns hi bit late wellie emergency, involved in crisis ctr's to prevent admission together as mdt with commissioners
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:17
@ElaineLJames Do you think AMHPs are aware of blue light CTR alternative? #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:18
V important #weldns https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786284542604742657
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:18
RT @ross_6479: This is problematic, needs to be family centred response too #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786284109031243779
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:18
Would be great to know more about models of crisis intervention which work and avoid admissions #weldns… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/786284846586826752
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:18
@RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 nt all cases - most admitting clinicians believe admissions serve the individual's best interests #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:18
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames not sure as many activists AMHP any more they stopped challenging #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:18
The ability to be citizens and lead a life not industrialised care lives is a start #weldns @PhilHolmesPPF @billrlove
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:18
Sad that this happens #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786284655704150016
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:18
@RobMitch92 @PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses Agree. That was experience of many of #7Daysofaction dudes. Done & dusted in 24 hours. #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:18
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames not sure as many activists AMHP any more they stopped challenging #weldns
@anniestrongCLDN
12 October 2016 20:18
@SamSly2 not all families request help. Some go unknown for years trying to keep going then contact in crisis #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:18
@asifamhp @IanAndrewHolt @Mwharvey @EmadLilo @RobMitch92 oooo - now there's a challenge :D #weldns https://twitter.com/DrMariosAdamou/status/786284710062358528
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:18
RT @MarkNeary1: @ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:18
@RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 circumstances should be deteriorating mental state, forensic issues where appropriate #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:18
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns #7daysofaction would love to know more about where we've seen successful admission avoidance! https://t.co/T4fsOG…
@sarahdaly25
12 October 2016 20:19
RT @Mwharvey: I think we need to understand the term respite also as it is also potentially and institutional response #weldns @HazelWatso…
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:19
RT @ElaineLJames: Would be great to know more about models of crisis intervention which work and avoid admissions #weldns #7daysofaction ht…
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:19
RT @kirstytaylor193: I've seen some good work from crisis teams, good interventions. Main barrier is definitely funding #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:19
@RobMitch92 @PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses had providers telling me P can't stay here no family near admission only option #WeLDNs
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:19
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames not sure as many activists AMHP any more they stopped challenging #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:19
#weldns https://t.co/Chs6kYCUe6
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:19
@Nurse2Coach @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 Transforming Care can't get a new policy with old thinking #WeLDNs
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:19
@WeLDnurses barriers to community support? Buildings based services gone, funding re-directed? #Weldns it wasnt perfect but it was there!
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:19
@Mwharvey @billrlove #WeLDNs strongly agree, but most commissioners think answers are "services"
@S411Y100
12 October 2016 20:20
#weldns sometimes incorrect provision increases risk as the person's mental health deteriorates or behaviours increase in situation
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:20
Third #weldns question https://t.co/Q6xocfd2qp
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:20
RT @EmadLilo: #Weldns it is imperative #AMHPs engage in this
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:20
RT @ross_6479: Massive amount of pressure on families #weldns https://twitter.com/ofaction7/status/786284028290801664
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:20
Big call but I agree. If you cement AMHPs into an NHS hierarchy don't expect freedom to challenge dominance. #weldns https://twitter.com/elaineljames/status/786285017005629440
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:20
RT @asifamhp: @OfAction7 @MarkNeary1 hi Leo plz do ?? #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:20
Hi @MaryOToole10 lovely to see you here :) #weldns https://twitter.com/MaryOToole10/status/786285225559011328
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:20
I'm 1/2 in and out! We quiz on a weds! #weldns https://twitter.com/salsa442/status/786281037047422976
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:20
RT @WeLDnurses: Third #weldns question https://t.co/Q6xocfd2qp
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:20
@WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames #weldns if AMPHS feel valued and supported maybe they can challenge more
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @RobMitch92: Big call but I agree. If you cement AMHPs into an NHS hierarchy don't expect freedom to challenge dominance. #weldns https:…
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: @Mwharvey @billrlove #WeLDNs strongly agree, but most commissioners think answers are "services"
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @anniemillarLDN: @SamSly2 not all families request help. Some go unknown for years trying to keep going then contact in crisis #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:21
@Nurse2Coach @ross_6479 @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 In what way? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:21
That's terrible, families should be supported and involved, collaboration key more support needed #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786285098832363520
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @TwittleyJules: @Nurse2Coach @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 Transforming Care can't get a new policy with old thinking #WeLDNs
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:21
@WeLDnurses hold services to account so same old excuses are not used #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @MaryOToole10: @WeLDnurses barriers to community support? Buildings based services gone, funding re-directed? #Weldns it wasnt perfect b…
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:21
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses late id of needs, lack of collaboration with family and service user, desperation, last resort, breakdowns #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @TwittleyJules: @Nurse2Coach @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 Transforming Care can't get a new policy with old thinking #WeLDNs
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @ElaineLJames: And we're off #weldns question 1 https://twitter.com/WeLDnurses/status/786281542813376512
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @WeLDnurses: Third #weldns question https://t.co/Q6xocfd2qp
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:21
.@WeLDnurses what % of care and support reviews lead to discharge as an outcome or is it another process #WeLDNs
@billrlove
12 October 2016 20:21
@Mwharvey @PhilHolmesPPF #WeLDNs we must also actively challenge industrialised 'person centred' planning. leads to industrialised services
@Markliamb
12 October 2016 20:21
RT @RobMitch92: Big call but I agree. If you cement AMHPs into an NHS hierarchy don't expect freedom to challenge dominance. #weldns https:…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:22
RT @WeLDnurses: Evening all, what's going on here then, people joining the chat without the hashtag? We'll have none of that! #weldns https…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:22
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames #weldns if AMPHS feel valued and supported maybe they can challenge more
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:22
RT @CommunityLd: @WeLDnurses hold services to account so same old excuses are not used #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:22
#WeLDNs What is needed to make this happen? https://twitter.com/drmariosadamou/status/786285554359005184
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:22
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames #weldns if AMPHS feel valued and supported maybe they can challenge more
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:22
@Nurse2Coach @WeLDnurses @salsa442 As in its in Ps best interest not to be left in community with no services & an exhausted carer. #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:23
@DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames we are need alternatives to challenge with #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:23
RT @Mwharvey: .@WeLDnurses what % of care and support reviews lead to discharge as an outcome or is it another process #WeLDNs
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:23
@TwittleyJules @WeLDnurses in my experience that's what they do #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:23
How do you mean 'industrialised'? Can you give an example of where you've seen this recently please Bill? #weldns https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786285782579482624
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:23
@Mwharvey @WeLDnurses #weldns. Data published monthly on NHS Digital has all that information.
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:24
@WeLDnurses If you can get a CTR. Heard of them being refused #Weldns
@helfrank
12 October 2016 20:24
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:24
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:24
@tinavikki85 @PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses Needs become secondary to presenting issues. Presenting issues is 'find a bed'. #weldns
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:24
RT @ElaineLJames: @asifamhp @IanAndrewHolt @Mwharvey @EmadLilo @RobMitch92 oooo - now there's a challenge :D #weldns https://t.co/4xiQpfBkAb
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:24
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: @Mwharvey @WeLDnurses #weldns. Data published monthly on NHS Digital has all that information.
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:24
Our @CeDRLancs report says 18% go home @chrishattoncedr @MarkNeary1 https://t.co/XI03DoprjK #weldns #7daysofaction https://t.co/q6YOOMXLNM
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:24
@DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames AMHPs although independent they operate within avail resources, alternatives oftenlimited #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:25
@CommunityLd @WeLDnurses A bit of accountant I lite would be lovely #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @CommunityLd: @WeLDnurses hold services to account so same old excuses are not used #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @TwittleyJules: @Nurse2Coach @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 Transforming Care can't get a new policy with old thinking #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses If you can get a CTR. Heard of them being refused #Weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:25
We couldn't get a single example of "assessment" for #7Daysofaction. Has anyone got one? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:25
#weldns https://t.co/Fs5pyE7bZH
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @ross_6479: That's terrible, families should be supported and involved, collaboration key more support needed #weldns https://t.co/hMtna…
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Is it just lack of funding or capacity of community services or is there a culture problem? @ElaineLJames #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:25
#WeLDNs @NHSDigital https://t.co/ByLtDC4lqz
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @billrlove: @Mwharvey @PhilHolmesPPF #WeLDNs we must also actively challenge industrialised 'person centred' planning. leads to industri…
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @MaryOToole10: @WeLDnurses barriers to community support? Buildings based services gone, funding re-directed? #Weldns it wasnt perfect b…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:25
#weldns https://t.co/wgHnNCH9YN
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:25
@ElaineLJames @HazelWatsonNHSE @ihal_talk @SamSly2 @smclrk see centre for welfare reform reports -returning home and getting there #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: @Mwharvey @billrlove #WeLDNs strongly agree, but most commissioners think answers are "services"
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @444blackcat: @DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames we are need alternatives to challenge with #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:25
Get back to point of AMHPs function in the first place @LynneBowers2 #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:25
RT @CommunityLd: @TwittleyJules @WeLDnurses in my experience that's what they do #weldns
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:25
@WeLDnurses sorry wearing my contrarian hat tonight! #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:26
@dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses but 'risk' and 'safeguarding' MH act and vulnerability have to be recognised #weldns 2/2
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
#weldns https://t.co/R7BYSoiHtU
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: @Mwharvey @WeLDnurses #weldns. Data published monthly on NHS Digital has all that information.
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:26
Ensure the CoP expectation that AMHP is a specialist in LD would be a good @LynneBowers2 #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses If you can get a CTR. Heard of them being refused #Weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @ross_6479: #weldns https://t.co/Fs5pyE7bZH
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @MarkNeary1: @ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Sometimes it is not the person it is the system that leads to the admission #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:26
@RobMitch92 we had two AMHPs write a great blog about this for #7daysofaction #weldns https://lastquangoinhalifax.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/to-amhp-or-not-to-amhp-7daysofaction/ https://twitter.com/DrMariosAdamou/status/786285554359005184
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
Early intervention is essential #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786286313972588544
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:26
@ElaineLJames dont know where 2 find ebp but intensive home support shown 2 b helpful as community teams dont always have time #weldns
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:26
Absolutely #weldns https://t.co/WLmodn7lHb
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:26
RT @LynneBowers2: #WeLDNs What is needed to make this happen? https://t.co/gWJqWSqSvp
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @ross_6479: #weldns https://t.co/Fs5pyE7bZH
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: @Mwharvey @WeLDnurses #weldns. Data published monthly on NHS Digital has all that information.
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:27
A bit of accountability from services would be nice...! #WeLDNs @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @444blackcat: @DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames we are need alternatives to challenge with #weldns
@S411Y100
12 October 2016 20:27
#weldns often the dream package is expensive so might know what you want/need but end up squeezing someone into an existing provision
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@johnpopham
12 October 2016 20:27
@MaryOToole10 Is it on the right way? ;-) #weLDNS
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:27
@PhilHolmesPPF @billrlove Working to ensure that health & social care stops thinking health & social care is the answer #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses If you can get a CTR. Heard of them being refused #Weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:27
@PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses we can out ppl in own homes but DOLS used as alternative detention #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:27
Thanks for sharing #ebp #weldns https://twitter.com/drmariosadamou/status/786286481446961152
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:27
@MaryOToole10 It's always good to have an opposing point of view to create clarity! #weldns
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:27
RT @ElaineLJames: @RobMitch92 we had two AMHPs write a great blog about this for #7daysofaction #weldns https://lastquangoinhalifax.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/to-amhp-or-not-to-amhp-7daysofaction/ https://t.c…
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:28
RT @ElaineLJames: @RobMitch92 we had two AMHPs write a great blog about this for #7daysofaction #weldns https://lastquangoinhalifax.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/to-amhp-or-not-to-amhp-7daysofaction/ https://t.c…
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:28
RT @ElaineLJames: Our @CeDRLancs report says 18% go home @chrishattoncedr @MarkNeary1 http://wp.lancs.ac.uk/cedr/publications/ #weldns #7daysofaction https:…
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:28
@ElaineLJames and you! persuaded the venerable @CharlesHenley to try & join us; he managed v gd day services back in 70s-80s I think #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:28
@DrMariosAdamou @WeLDnurses @ElaineLJames but we're not i depend on LDteam to offer alternatives #WeLDNs
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:28
@ElaineLJames #weldns recognising early experiences, complex histories need for #MDT formulation & positive #risk taking
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:28
#weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786286633742135297
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:28
RT @ross_6479: #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786286082493149184
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:28
#weldns https://twitter.com/drmariosadamou/status/786283738267287552
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:28
#WeLDNs This is a powerful blog re AMHPs https://twitter.com/elaineljames/status/786286980690620416
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:28
#weldns https://twitter.com/drmariosadamou/status/786286724469186560
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:28
@Nurse2Coach @MarkNeary1 @ross_6479 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 You'd think so. Never actually seen anything remotely near to that though. #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:29
Also be good to see a pro-active use of Managers hearings and MHRTs. SW needs to provide options not collude with the status quo #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @S411Y100: #weldns often the dream package is expensive so might know what you want/need but end up squeezing someone into an existing p…
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @Mwharvey: Get back to point of AMHPs function in the first place @LynneBowers2 #weldns
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:29
@HazelWatsonNHSE @Mwharvey @WeLDnurses #WeLDNs can you post a link Hazel?
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @MaryOToole10: @WeLDnurses sorry wearing my contrarian hat tonight! #weldns
@KateLinhart
12 October 2016 20:29
Thats exactly where we can transform culture & challenge risk adverse reactive culture every day #weldns https://t.co/62JDwPNDEB
@chris_dlamini
12 October 2016 20:29
When it comes to LD, ATUs are the first option. Normalisation and OBrien's Principles all forgotten. Who invented ATUs? #weldns
@tinavikki85
12 October 2016 20:29
@RobMitch92 @PhilHolmesPPF @WeLDnurses this is totally wrong way to approach this, put a qualified person in with family 4 a while #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @ross_6479: Thanks for sharing #ebp #weldns https://t.co/BdgZEFiW63
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:29
@PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses #weldns I always think of this when I think about safegu… https://t.co/v3NPmhRwTA
@Markliamb
12 October 2016 20:29
@ElaineLJames @HazelWatsonNHSE I agree #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:29
@salsa442 @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses placement then lost or withdrawn, need to utilise tenancies and individuals appoint own staff #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @TwittleyJules: A bit of accountability from services would be nice...! #WeLDNs @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @ElaineLJames: @RobMitch92 we had two AMHPs write a great blog about this for #7daysofaction #weldns https://lastquangoinhalifax.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/to-amhp-or-not-to-amhp-7daysofaction/ https://t.c…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:29
RT @MarkNeary1: @Nurse2Coach @ross_6479 @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 In what way? #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:29
@LynneBowers2 thanks Lynne #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:30
Fourth #weldns question! https://t.co/EPqY1CTBd0
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:30
@PaulaHopes1 @salsa442 @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses but reality is its not as simple as that.... I wish it was #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:30
RT @MarkNeary1: @ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:30
@WeLDnurses haha not ness opposing; adding? #weldns my sis avoided admission to #ATUl all thru our childhood but it came at cost to #family
@perry181818
12 October 2016 20:30
#WeLDNs let's all stand and get our boys out it's time
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:30
@ElaineLJames @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses I love that quote, balancing choice and safety and supporting both #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:30
My son had 5 hospitals in 19 months. Arm broken, debatable meds changes, no understanding Emotional age of 4. Who locks up children? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:31
@SamSly2 @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses totally agree #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:31
RT @WeLDnurses: Fourth #weldns question! https://t.co/EPqY1CTBd0
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:31
constant change in organisations with new and inexperienced commissioners in charge does not help #7daysofaction #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:31
RT @ElaineLJames: @PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses #weldns I always think of this when I think about safeguarding…
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:31
@PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses I like the idea though...joint article on alternative models of care? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:31
RT @WeLDnurses: Fourth #weldns question! https://t.co/EPqY1CTBd0
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:31
@RobMitch92 @Nurse2Coach @ross_6479 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 From experiences we've heard, hard to find a lesser evil than ATU #weldns
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:31
@KateLinhart Where it happens then great. I rarely genuinely see it. NHS isn't built on internal challenge it's built on hierarchy. #weldns
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:32
@WeLDnurses #WeLDNs tumbleweed....... ?
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:32
RT @ElaineLJames: @PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses #weldns I always think of this when I think about safeguarding…
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:32
@asifamhp @LynneBowers2 Thats why LAs need to take responsibility We train and maintain our LD AMHPS at about 13 #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:32
@asifamhp @Mwharvey @LynneBowers2 last yr was 1st time we got 2 LD AMHPs teams very reluctant to release for training #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:32
#weldns https://t.co/XO25OU34TY
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:32
Brilliant blog by @BeckstaylorFish seclusion in locked wards - how is this treatment #weldns https://t.co/cSpKDX8kxx
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:32
#weldns https://t.co/hCK4SdmViU
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:32
#WeLDNs The Integration Triangle? https://t.co/pIfHuwMkUV
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:32
RT @Mwharvey: @asifamhp @LynneBowers2 Thats why LAs need to take responsibility We train and maintain our LD AMHPS at about 13 #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:33
#weldns https://t.co/U6zT1EincB
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:33
@CommunityLd @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses #weldns we need to lead on models by creating a recommended gold standard
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:33
@CommunityLd @WeLDnurses good plan! heard about an organisation doing this at a transforming care event, will dig out info & share #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:33
@SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses you'd be surprised at cost of some basic community placements #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:33
Poor AMHP leadership then it has to be an LA given and something to take pride in #weldns @444blackcat @asifamhp @LynneBowers2
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:33
@MarkNeary1 @RobMitch92 @Nurse2Coach @ross_6479 @WeLDnurses @salsa442 Got I in one... #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:33
RT @CommunityLd: @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses I like the idea though...joint article on alternative models of care? #weldns
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:33
@billrlove and most local provision removed as consequence of Valuing People policy? #weldns Many of us #families saw that coming?
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:33
@OfAction7 @MarkNeary1 I have nothing but respect for u lot & for engaging with the likes of me when u have every right to b angry?? #weldns
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:33
@ElaineLJames @CeDRLancs With some rooting I could find EBP. I only know witnessed cases #confidentiality #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:34
@MarkNeary1 Get Steven Home should be essential reading for all social workers and @WeLDnurses #weldns https://t.co/G2SZBCEBtS
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:34
. #weldns https://t.co/VBzo4RFmBi
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:34
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @CommunityLd @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses #weldns we need to lead on models by creating a recommended gold standard
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:34
RT @ross_6479: Absolutely #weldns https://t.co/WLmodn7lHb
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:34
RT @CommunityLd: @SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses you'd be surprised at cost of some basic community placements #weldns
@JackSkinner81
12 October 2016 20:34
@weldnurses Why is simply talking to someone suddenly considered a therapy in a hospital setting? #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:34
Hi @tinavikki85 great to have you here at #weldns tonight - don't forget the hashag so we can see your comments! https://t.co/B83yUYALMs
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:34
@WeLDnurses Accountability is key. Plenty of law and policies which LAs and commissioners regularly dodge. #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:34
. #weldns https://twitter.com/chris_dlamini/status/786288678842855425
@johnpopham
12 October 2016 20:34
RT @ElaineLJames: @MarkNeary1 Get Steven Home should be essential reading for all social workers and @WeLDnurses #weldns https://t.co/G2SZB…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:35
Fifth #weldns chat question https://t.co/1jf1SMG8GW
@jennifermor
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @LynneBowers2: #WeLDNs This is a powerful blog re AMHPs https://twitter.com/elaineljames/status/786286980690620416
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @ElaineLJames: @MarkNeary1 Get Steven Home should be essential reading for all social workers and @WeLDnurses #weldns https://t.co/G2SZB…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @ElaineLJames: @MarkNeary1 Get Steven Home should be essential reading for all social workers and @WeLDnurses #weldns https://t.co/G2SZB…
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:35
@Mwharvey @asifamhp @LynneBowers2 very small LA AMHP lead has pushed ADs block it #WeLDNs
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:35
That's the way, what about building the right support? #weldns https://t.co/I0917x36Rp
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @CommunityLd @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses #weldns we need to lead on models by creating a recommended gold standard
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @ElaineLJames: Hi @tinavikki85 great to have you here at #weldns tonight - don't forget the hashag so we can see your comments! https://…
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:35
Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@jennifermor
12 October 2016 20:35
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction challenges the very idea of Assessment & Treatment - must not use ATUs as forensic cotton wool #weldns htt…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:36
Today's post from #7daysofaction very powerful on the issue of the T in the ATU #weldns https://t.co/LRw5k063eT
@dmarsden49
12 October 2016 20:36
RT @WeLDnurses: Fifth #weldns chat question https://t.co/1jf1SMG8GW
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:36
RT @JackSkinner81: @weldnurses Why is simply talking to someone suddenly considered a therapy in a hospital setting? #weldns
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:36
@ross_6479 stuck record me tonight=loss of buildings based services; many #families tried to stop this; protests all over UK #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:36
@SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses they provide service 'to meet need' with CQC rating quality of care #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:36
RT @ElaineLJames: Today's post from #7daysofaction very powerful on the issue of the T in the ATU #weldns https://t.co/LRw5k063eT
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:36
@Mwharvey @LynneBowers2 me not sure we have any ?? #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:36
How would you increase accountability Julie? Accountability to whome? #weldns https://twitter.com/TwittleyJules/status/786289026294767616
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:36
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:37
#WeLDNs This is not treatment. This is Dickensian. https://twitter.com/elaineljames/status/786288438819500032
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:37
RT @ElaineLJames: Today's post from #7daysofaction very powerful on the issue of the T in the ATU #weldns https://www.sevendaysofaction.net/our-campaigns/autumn-2016-human/day-three-assessment-and-treatment/
@tinavikki85
12 October 2016 20:37
#WeLDNs https://twitter.com/tinavikki85/status/786288066705096704
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:37
Or taking a walk once a week around the grounds? #weldns https://twitter.com/JackSkinner81/status/786288949031530496
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:37
Absolutely #weldns https://twitter.com/paulahopes1/status/786289019755831296
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:37
@PaulaHopes1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses support should be part of the model #weldns
@JackSkinner81
12 October 2016 20:37
ATU = Incarceration with an indeterminate sentence. The opposite of CARE and TREATMENT in many cases I suspect. #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:37
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @CommunityLd @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses #weldns we need to lead on models by creating a recommended gold standard
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:37
@WeLDnurses http://www.sevendaysofaction.net/ #WeLDNs
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:37
@MarkNeary1 that's why skills in community essential. Lack of generalisation of intervention back to home setting from #atu #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:37
RT @WeLDnurses: Fifth #weldns chat question https://t.co/1jf1SMG8GW
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:37
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@SamSly2
12 October 2016 20:37
@WeLDnurses #weldns commissioners get what they commission. Commission person centred get person centred. Don't & you get crap
@jesslinworld
12 October 2016 20:38
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:38
@SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses and most providers you will but how many claim to be specialist and have no such skills in staff? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:38
Needs to be right for the ind. #weldns https://t.co/Sjacvkn2tu
@billrlove
12 October 2016 20:38
#WeLDNs We are noticing that many TCP areas lack local, small, people driven alternatives to secure services/ATU & don't know how to create
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:38
Would love to hear more about your Positive Practice work Kate #weldns https://t.co/qgDE4olCju
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:38
RT @JackSkinner81: ATU = Incarceration with an indeterminate sentence. The opposite of CARE and TREATMENT in many cases I suspect. #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:38
RT @JackSkinner81: ATU = Incarceration with an indeterminate sentence. The opposite of CARE and TREATMENT in many cases I suspect. #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:38
@ross_6479 @CommunityLd @salsa442 @RobMitch92 @WeLDnurses just when I think I've got the hang #of it!!! #weldns
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:38
RT @JackSkinner81: @weldnurses Why is simply talking to someone suddenly considered a therapy in a hospital setting? #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:38
@DrMariosAdamou @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses support and accommodation often two separate entities of same equation #weldns
@jennifermor
12 October 2016 20:38
RT @MarkNeary1: @ross_6479 #weldns The age thing is massively relevant. Most of our stories are of similar ages. 16-18 seems very common
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:39
Great point #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786289329186430976
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:39
RT @JackSkinner81: @weldnurses Why is simply talking to someone suddenly considered a therapy in a hospital setting? #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:39
RT @CommunityLd: @DrMariosAdamou @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses support and accommodation often two separate entities of same equation #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:39
.. #weldns https://twitter.com/chris_dlamini/status/786289560049295360
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:39
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @PaulaHopes1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses support should be part of the model #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:39
RT @DrMariosAdamou: @PaulaHopes1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses support should be part of the model #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:39
RT @billrlove: #WeLDNs We are noticing that many TCP areas lack local, small, people driven alternatives to secure services/ATU & don't kno…
@asifamhp
12 October 2016 20:39
@Mwharvey @444blackcat @LynneBowers2 the LAs at a senior level also need to take on the NHS & CCGs IMVHO #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:39
. #weldns https://twitter.com/jmcefalas/status/786289629855096832
@Markliamb
12 October 2016 20:39
This very true and some aren't even trying to change that #weLDNs https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786289898810667008
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:39
@WeLDnurses The Things We Know.. http://www.sevendaysofaction.net/ #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:39
@DrMariosAdamou I can not like this tweet enough! #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:39
#WeLDNs Yes but I (patiently) remind finance NLW x24x365 + employers contributions + sickness/absence/study leave =… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/786290320703123456
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:39
@MarkNeary1 I'd be totally lost; imagine if you had #learningdisability & #autism. If ppl need T use ordinary life!#weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:39
@SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses I'm not a commissioner but will always insist on best for my patients if that's what they want #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Is it just lack of funding or capacity of community services or is there a culture problem? @ElaineLJames #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:40
.. #weldns https://t.co/ho8TAOBnXE
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @SamSly2: @WeLDnurses #weldns commissioners get what they commission. Commission person centred get person centred. Don't & you get crap
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @S411Y100: #weldns often the dream package is expensive so might know what you want/need but end up squeezing someone into an existing p…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:40
Language and terminology so important #weldns https://twitter.com/chris_dlamini/status/786289960647323648
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:40
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: #weldns Anybody been involved in community/pre-admission CTRs? Success rate great but sadly still small numbers
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:40
@WeLDnurses A&T wasn't the aim on admission. It certainly isn't the aim 8 weeks in. But we then enter the 'step down' conversation. #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:40
#WeLDNs Acute Trust Care is such a long way from contemporary community & social care https://twitter.com/jackskinner81/status/786288949031530496
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:40
@LynneBowers2 @SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses costs are high but when staff paid NMW and owners all in Land Rovers ?? #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:41
RT @kirstytaylor193: @ElaineLJames @CeDRLancs With some rooting I could find EBP. I only know witnessed cases #confidentiality #WeLDNs
@DrMariosAdamou
12 October 2016 20:41
@asifamhp @Mwharvey @444blackcat @LynneBowers2 oh please someone do it #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:41
RT @JackSkinner81: ATU = Incarceration with an indeterminate sentence. The opposite of CARE and TREATMENT in many cases I suspect. #weldns
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:41
@CharlesHenley have you joined in yet? #weldns #7daysofcation
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:41
@CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 I think we get too hung up on "skills". I want people who are interested in Steven #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:41
RT @SamSly2: @WeLDnurses #weldns commissioners get what they commission. Commission person centred get person centred. Don't & you get crap
@alannasaudade
12 October 2016 20:41
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:41
@WeLDnurses And 'step down' is code for 'CCG & LA fight over funding'. #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:41
@DrMariosAdamou @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses some very good examples in north east #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:41
RT @billrlove: #WeLDNs We are noticing that many TCP areas lack local, small, people driven alternatives to secure services/ATU & don't kno…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:41
Great #ebp to check out #weldns https://t.co/tbLzw1zuMh
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:42
#WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to change.
@johnpopham
12 October 2016 20:42
Let's hope for a mild winter then! #WeLDNs https://t.co/gZhz13P1KR
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:42
#weldns do we really consider the least restrictive option @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 https://t.co/bClYfSOJV7
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:42
@DrMariosAdamou @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses right back to commissioning and expectations, robust contracts with specialist providers #weldns
@TrishaL8
12 October 2016 20:42
RT @RobMitch92: @WeLDnurses And 'step down' is code for 'CCG & LA fight over funding'. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:42
RT @PaulaHopes1: @DrMariosAdamou I can not like this tweet enough! #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:42
RT @RobMitch92: @WeLDnurses And 'step down' is code for 'CCG & LA fight over funding'. #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:42
@WeLDnurses my son had 5 ATUs in 19 months. Arm broken, debatable meds changes. Emotionally, he's 4. Who locks up children? #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:42
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses The Things We Know.. https://t.co/FRVexl8xdj #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:42
#WeLDNs There is a disconnect here. Escalate ? National narrative ? https://t.co/u5FACJQbEk
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:42
RT @ross_6479: Great point #weldns https://t.co/XnYRyNQE9G
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:42
Need full collaboration #weldns https://t.co/qQJ6OKnJjb
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:42
Could explore as part of Named Social Worker thinking? @Mwharvey @4370Raj @RobMitch92 @KirstyMcLeod81 #weldns https://twitter.com/ross_6479/status/786289424804024320
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:42
ultimately misery makes ppl unsafe? #weldns https://twitter.com/ElaineLJames/status/786283148967567360
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:43
@KateLinhart Ensuring human rights for ppl in NHS settings keeps SWs in jobs. Were inundated. Something badly wrong. #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:43
Agreed,also Manchester models, wide community services, ltd/no inpatient option #weldns https://twitter.com/communityld/status/786290777005649920
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:43
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns do we really consider the least restrictive option @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 https://t.co/bClYfSOJV7
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:43
RT @RobMitch92: @KateLinhart Ensuring human rights for ppl in NHS settings keeps SWs in jobs. Were inundated. Something badly wrong. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:43
RT @RobMitch92: @WeLDnurses And 'step down' is code for 'CCG & LA fight over funding'. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:43
RT @ross_6479: Great #ebp to check out #weldns https://twitter.com/twittleyjules/status/786290304743858176
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:43
@CommunityLd @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 Sadly a number of skilled staff would say they know better than Steven #weldns
@organiclemon
12 October 2016 20:43
RT @WeLDnurses: Fifth #weldns chat question https://t.co/1jf1SMG8GW
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:44
#weldns has to be! https://t.co/XR77IElB4D
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:44
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns do we really consider the least restrictive option @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 https://t.co/bClYfSOJV7
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:44
#WeLDNs Level of specialisation not understood ? Not funded. https://t.co/WZ4w4StwT6
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:44
#weldns Well.... you might have done so actually.... see this from @chrishattoncedr https://t.co/v3gKgbc7he https://t.co/mAHQ7vDL4U
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:44
@Mwharvey @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 suggest character deficits in them people imo ?? #weldns
@sarahtturvey
12 October 2016 20:44
RT @MarkNeary1: We couldn't get a single example of "assessment" for #7Daysofaction. Has anyone got one? #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:44
@SamSly2 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @S411Y100 Can learn skills on the job. Better to have desire to engage with a fellow human being #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:44
RT @ElaineLJames: Could explore as part of Named Social Worker thinking? @Mwharvey @4370Raj @RobMitch92 @KirstyMcLeod81 #weldns https://t.c…
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:44
RT @CommunityLd: @SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses they provide service 'to meet need' with CQC rating quality of care #weldns
@alannasaudade
12 October 2016 20:44
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:44
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 Least restrictive or easiest? #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @RobMitch92: @KateLinhart Ensuring human rights for ppl in NHS settings keeps SWs in jobs. Were inundated. Something badly wrong. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:45
Sixth #weldns chat question https://t.co/hGYXRORI4l
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @PaulaHopes1: Agreed,also Manchester models, wide community services, ltd/no inpatient option #weldns https://twitter.com/communityld/status/786290777005649920
@S411Y100
12 October 2016 20:45
@Mwharvey @CommunityLd @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 #WeLDNs need to be skilled but also kind, compassionate, empathic& listen
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:45
@billrlove @WeLDnurses can't help wondering if much has changed since our days in Berkshire Bill - still sending people away! #weLDNS
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns Well.... you might have done so actually.... see this from @chrishattoncedr http://chrishatton.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/plastical.html https://t.co…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @WeLDnurses: Sixth #weldns chat question https://t.co/hGYXRORI4l
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @MaryOToole10: ultimately misery makes ppl unsafe? #weldns https://twitter.com/ElaineLJames/status/786283148967567360
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:45
@CommunityLd @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 I agree but plays out in practice everyday nationally #weldns
@clentonF
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @billrlove: @Mwharvey @PhilHolmesPPF #WeLDNs we must also actively challenge industrialised 'person centred' planning. leads to industri…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @WeLDnurses: Sixth #weldns chat question https://t.co/hGYXRORI4l
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:45
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns do we really consider the least restrictive option @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 https://t.co/bClYfSOJV7
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:46
@S411Y100 @Mwharvey @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 core value base of anyone entering caring profession #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:46
RT @asifamhp: @Mwharvey @444blackcat @LynneBowers2 the LAs at a senior level also need to take on the NHS & CCGs IMVHO #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:46
Important ppl have the right value base #weldns https://t.co/47a3qo9AsH
@CallMeMoNow
12 October 2016 20:46
RT @LynneBowers2: #WeLDNs Acute Trust Care is such a long way from contemporary community & social care https://t.co/czthhB4hmD
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:46
@PhilHolmesPPF @RobMitch92 @Mwharvey @chrishattoncedr hope you've seen this from #7daysofaction map of ATUs #weldns https://t.co/a2GZU0KEvE
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:46
@ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses We need independent audit of Transforming Care with legal clout. #weldns
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:46
RT @MaryOToole10: ultimately misery makes ppl unsafe? #weldns https://twitter.com/ElaineLJames/status/786283148967567360
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:46
RT @TwittleyJules: @WeLDnurses The Things We Know.. https://t.co/FRVexl8xdj #weldns
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:47
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: #WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to chan…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:47
Passion and desire to care is what drives us to this career #weldns https://t.co/yfDjOX9nBA
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:47
@WeLDnurses heard story about a yp who was exposed 2 alternatives 2 home from the #atu increased independence and #qol this op 1/2 #weldns
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:47
preconceived ideas about what is 'suitable' one barrier linked to lack of person centred planning #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:47
RT @TwittleyJules: @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses We need independent audit of Transforming Care with legal clout. #weldns
@sarahtturvey
12 October 2016 20:47
RT @ElaineLJames: Our @CeDRLancs report says 18% go home @chrishattoncedr @MarkNeary1 http://wp.lancs.ac.uk/cedr/publications/ #weldns #7daysofaction https:…
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:47
@OfAction7 @PhilHolmesPPF My favourite tweet of the night. #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:48
@LynneBowers2 tbf we have vastly reduced beds n LA practice positive risk taking n independent living but cuts impacting #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:48
. #weldns https://twitter.com/mwharvey/status/786292029193981952
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:48
@WeLDnurses arose because a peer was moving to her own home. SU asked about it and now lives in supported living 2/2 #weldns
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:48
@PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou but worrying for Rochdales recent move to group living answers #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:48
#weldns key #7daysofaction theme is people think it is a short term admission but rarely is this the case… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/786292449794744320
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:48
@TwittleyJules @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses If you count the NAO they are about to oblige! #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:48
@kirstytaylor193 @WeLDnurses Where to start? I visited every single day...took him out on s17. He came home overnight. No problems. #weldns
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:48
@ElaineLJames fabulous judgment we need to promote #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:48
@WeLDnurses absolutely fundamental issue in forensic services... Where is home? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:48
Definitely, ind should be involved #weldns https://twitter.com/samsly2/status/786292203282919424
@CallMeMoNow
12 October 2016 20:48
RT @MarkNeary1: Even if assessment happens, how can it succeed in alien, often terrifying environment. Data invalidated? #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:49
and over use of forensic parts of the MHA @EmadLilo @RobMitch92 @IanAndrewHolt #weldns #7daysofaction https://twitter.com/HazelWatsonNHSE/status/786291520492204032
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:49
#WeLDNs There should be no profit in care of the vulnerable. Sustainable yes but this example makes me sick https://twitter.com/communityld/status/786290576245358592
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @MarkNeary1: @OfAction7 @PhilHolmesPPF My favourite tweet of the night. #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:49
#weldns https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786292226334810112
@sarahtturvey
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @ElaineLJames: @RobMitch92 we had two AMHPs write a great blog about this for #7daysofaction #weldns https://lastquangoinhalifax.wordpress.com/2016/10/08/to-amhp-or-not-to-amhp-7daysofaction/ https://t.c…
@HeidiSumner
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @JackSkinner81: ATU = Incarceration with an indeterminate sentence. The opposite of CARE and TREATMENT in many cases I suspect. #weldns
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:49
@HazelWatsonNHSE @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses So why no progress post Winterbourne? #weldns
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:49
Never been involved in discharges yet. But always seen patient choices being upheld in other planning meetings #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:49
#weldns report from @CeDRLancs @chrishattoncedr @MarkNeary1 has the answers to these questions in it… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/786292789025714176
@chris_dlamini
12 October 2016 20:49
From #asylums to #ATUs. I hope there won't be another name to hide behind. People belong with their families #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @PaulaHopes1: Agreed,also Manchester models, wide community services, ltd/no inpatient option #weldns https://twitter.com/communityld/status/786290777005649920
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns key #7daysofaction theme is people think it is a short term admission but rarely is this the case @RobMitch92 @Mw…
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:49
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns key #7daysofaction theme is people think it is a short term admission but rarely is this the case @RobMitch92 @Mw…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:50
These chats really do make things happen! #weldns https://t.co/DeMfb0C1JE
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:50
@KateLinhart I agree. Is why I think SW should sit just outside of LA & NHS control. Should be directly accountable to P. #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:50
Seventh #weldns chat question https://t.co/ua8wF24w5i
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:50
@CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 They become skilled in him. They won't have those skills before they meet him #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:50
. #weldns https://t.co/tOG0i5aWvi
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:50
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns key #7daysofaction theme is people think it is a short term admission but rarely is this the case @RobMitch92 @Mw…
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:50
@chrishattoncedr I spy numbers #weldns https://t.co/6qXoVVIOAB
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:50
thank you for joining us Jonathan #weldns https://twitter.com/JonathanBeebee/status/786292418903760896
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:51
RT @WeLDnurses: These chats really do make things happen! #weldns https://twitter.com/MarkNeary1/status/786292350930780161
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:51
RT @WeLDnurses: Seventh #weldns chat question https://t.co/ua8wF24w5i
@RvrRapper
12 October 2016 20:51
GET FREE 61 FOLLOWERS ?https://cards.twitter.com/cards/18ce54ekebl/2azpp #brexitdebate #owldn #MakeMeSmileIn3Words #weldns #PeopleAwards
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:51
RT @MarkNeary1: @OfAction7 @PhilHolmesPPF My favourite tweet of the night. #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:51
@CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 I'm talking about the skill to engage in chat about Fawlty Towers to ward off meltdown #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:51
RT @ross_6479: #weldns https://twitter.com/billrlove/status/786292226334810112
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:51
@LynneBowers2 @SamSly2 @S411Y100 @WeLDnurses happy to discuss further in confidential forum #weldns
@PhilHolmesPPF
12 October 2016 20:51
@OfAction7 #WeLDNs hopefully he's not too far from Sheffield, but if so that's invitation I'm happy to accept.
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:51
where can we find more #ebp about what can help overcome the barriers Sue #weldns https://twitter.com/NDTiSue/status/786292189282250752
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:51
. #weldns . https://twitter.com/paulahopes1/status/786292959474049024
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:51
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: @OfAction7 #WeLDNs hopefully he's not too far from Sheffield, but if so that's invitation I'm happy to accept.
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:51
@kirstytaylor193 @WeLDnurses Maybe he just didn't like being locked up. And LA had no clues for a solution #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:52
. #WeLDNs https://t.co/GjDsbNCRDv
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:52
@MarkNeary1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 but what pre-requisites would u expect? #weldns #communication as a start
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: @TwittleyJules @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses If you count the NAO they are about to oblige! #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @TwittleyJules: @HazelWatsonNHSE @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses So why no progress post Winterbourne? #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:52
#WeLDNs https://t.co/Uw6Th2zPGF
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @EmadLilo: @ElaineLJames fabulous judgment we need to promote #weldns
@KateLinhart
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @RobMitch92: @KateLinhart Ensuring human rights for ppl in NHS settings keeps SWs in jobs. Were inundated. Something badly wrong. #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: @TwittleyJules @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses If you count the NAO they are about to oblige! #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:52
RT @TwittleyJules: @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses We need independent audit of Transforming Care with legal clout. #weldns
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:53
Good question Mary #WeLDNs https://twitter.com/maryotoole10/status/786293145981947904
@HeidiSumner
12 October 2016 20:53
RT @SamSly2: @WeLDnurses #weldns commissioners get what they commission. Commission person centred get person centred. Don't & you get crap
@RobMitch92
12 October 2016 20:53
Tweet chats are intense. Feel like a 5yr old at a birthday party. High on smarties, sunny delight & the promise of pass the parcel. #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:53
RT @TwittleyJules: @ElaineLJames @WeLDnurses @Mwharvey @RobMitch92 Least restrictive or easiest? #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:53
RT @ElaineLJames: @PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses #weldns I always think of this when I think about safeguarding…
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:53
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: #WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to chan…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:53
@CommunityLd @LynneBowers2 @SamSly2 @S411Y100 Very wise #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:53
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: @OfAction7 #WeLDNs hopefully he's not too far from Sheffield, but if so that's invitation I'm happy to accept.
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:53
@WeLDnurses have recently visited great 6bed home where residents had great qol n it could of been a 5* hotel it can be done #WeLDNs
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:53
@Markliamb @MarkNeary1 how do we make social work accountable to P @RobMitch92 @Mwharvey #weldns #7daysofaction https://t.co/3Dg2H4TzES
@Lyn9Terry
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @DrMariosAdamou: Is it just lack of funding or capacity of community services or is there a culture problem? @ElaineLJames #weldns
@SueMTurner
12 October 2016 20:54
A can do culture working together with families and people with learning disabilities gets over a lot of barriers #weldns #7daysofaction
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:54
@PaulaHopes1 @MarkNeary1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 surely start with values base and some skills... Can't all be inexperienced? #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: #WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to chan…
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:54
@PaulaHopes1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 Usual stuff: caring, interested in folk, funny, committed to their PD. #weldns
@alannasaudade
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @billrlove: #weldns also result of failure to do early planning even when risk is identified early
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @ross_6479: #WeLDNs https://t.co/Uw6Th2zPGF
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:54
@PhilHolmesPPF absolutely, great that you recognise importance of this, now to make it happen #weldns
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @chris_dlamini: From #asylums to #ATUs. I hope there won't be another name to hide behind. People belong with their families #weldns
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:54
#WeLDNs This is key to improving care and empowering beleaguered colleagues https://twitter.com/weldnurses/status/786292873088106496
@RachelMason247
12 October 2016 20:54
RT @billrlove: #weldns our evidence from commissioners indicates huge % of ATU placements are inappropriate & desperate result of poor loc…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:55
Great to hear this #WeLDNs https://twitter.com/444blackcat/status/786293772929949696
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:55
@PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou Rochdale council announced last week were looking to group homes for savings #weldns
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:55
Gosh I've missed so much, had a wifi crisis here ?? #WeLDNs
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:55
@RobMitch92 Wait for the come down! #WeLDNs
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:55
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: #WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to chan…
@DeborahWoodhou1
12 October 2016 20:55
RT @PhilHolmesPPF: #WeLDNs earth shattering admission: I have never been to an ATU. As DASS and deputy chair of local TCP, that has to chan…
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:55
RT @LynneBowers2: #WeLDNs This is key to improving care and empowering beleaguered colleagues https://t.co/F195g34w0Y
@salsa442
12 October 2016 20:55
RT @ElaineLJames: @PaulaHopes1 @dmarsden49 @RobMitch92 @salsa442 @WeLDnurses #weldns I always think of this when I think about safeguarding…
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:55
#WeLDNs Let's do this https://twitter.com/communityld/status/786293237522784258
@chris_dlamini
12 October 2016 20:55
Asylums and ATUs have not worked for years. About time we tried a model called #liveathomewithyourfamily and we will care for you #WeLDNs
@7daysofaction7
12 October 2016 20:55
@PhilHolmesPPF #weldns I am now sending a dare. Anyone doctorNurse. Manger NHS.AdvocateSocial workerCqc.Lawyerplease I dare you come with me
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:56
@CommunityLd @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 4 of Steven's team of 5 had never worked with autism before. They're great. #weldns
@CommunityLd
12 October 2016 20:56
@JonathanBeebee @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @DrMariosAdamou reality of govt abolish central grant to councils.Most can't meet stat obs #weldns
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:56
@JonathanBeebee @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou dear me! What next, how a society treats its most vulnerable #stakeholders #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:56
#weldns @MarkNeary1 @Markliamb consequences for P loud & clear in #7daysofaction @RobMitch92 @Mwharvey @KateLinhart… https://t.co/pMaMGFebqb
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:56
@PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou https://t.co/KZ0POiHxSh #weldns
@kirstytaylor193
12 October 2016 20:56
@TwittleyJules @WeLDnurses Can often learn more from that than in classrooms sometimes! Sorry if I'm being too inquisitive #WeLDNs
@ermate
12 October 2016 20:56
ATU stands for Absolute Trouble Unwise-Don't even think about making unwise decisions as leads to being analysed beyond existence! #weldns
@HazelWnhs
12 October 2016 20:56
#weldns Personal one from me. Would a change of law help? Should LD without any MH still be a classification for detention?
@MaryOToole10
12 October 2016 20:56
@HannahnagroM not just caring, real intelligence inc emotional kind,,some skills can be learnt ; must bring all their talents too #weldns
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:56
RT @LynneBowers2: #WeLDNs This is key to improving care and empowering beleaguered colleagues https://t.co/F195g34w0Y
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:56
#WeLDNs Thank you Phil. Some issues for National attention and some condemnation of commissioning https://t.co/sbpVzpTUMg
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:56
So important #weldns https://t.co/eIvHqJ2Sqt
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:57
Ppl experience is so important to help us build knowledge and skills #WeLDNs https://t.co/qeovBphCgy
@Nurse2Coach
12 October 2016 20:57
@444blackcat @WeLDnurses can definitely be done - where there is commitment & leadership #WeLDNs
@LynneBowers2
12 October 2016 20:57
RT @ross_6479: Great to hear this #WeLDNs https://t.co/GSKgoZuOvv
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 20:57
@MarkNeary1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 ??interpersonal skills, nice people, values base. Need decision making 2 #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:57
RT @OfAction7: @PhilHolmesPPF #weldns I am now sending a dare. Anyone doctorNurse. Manger NHS.AdvocateSocial workerCqc.Lawyerplease I dare…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:57
Some interesting #ebp to read #WeLDNs https://twitter.com/jonathanbeebee/status/786294456861458432
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:57
#7daysofaction exceptionally powerful thank you @MarkNeary1 @Markliamb @OfAction7 #weldns https://twitter.com/johnpopham/status/786293694848638976
@TwittleyJules
12 October 2016 20:58
@kirstytaylor193 @WeLDnurses I made sure I was. Psych and commissioner wanted forensic. Yet I was taking him out every single day. #weldns
@444blackcat
12 October 2016 20:58
@ross_6479 its here in NE but places rare 2 homes 6 n 7 beds n owners don't want to expand as think it will dilute quality #WeLDNs
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:58
Def, involvement all the way #WeLDNs https://t.co/sOtPR89z6e
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:58
Room for a small one in the car? @RobMitch92 #weldns https://t.co/1hMpHeJTt1
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:58
RT @JonathanBeebee: @PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou https://t.co/KZ0POiHxSh #weldns
@MarkNeary1
12 October 2016 20:58
@ElaineLJames @Markliamb @RobMitch92 @Mwharvey You could buy in your own SW, if & when you need one. Covered by personal budget. #weldns
@Mwharvey
12 October 2016 20:58
RT @ElaineLJames: #weldns @MarkNeary1 @Markliamb consequences for P loud & clear in #7daysofaction @RobMitch92 @Mwharvey @KateLinhart https…
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:58
RT @HazelWatsonNHSE: #weldns Personal one from me. Would a change of law help? Should LD without any MH still be a classification for deten…
@ross_6479_RNLD
12 October 2016 20:59
Experience and understanding v important #WeLDNs https://t.co/CcC8wqmVvc
@JonathanBeebee
12 October 2016 20:59
@PaulaHopes1 @WeLDnurses @CommunityLd @DrMariosAdamou #weldns https://t.co/cc01GjJunR
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:59
Genuine compassionate care is found in the small places #weldns https://t.co/cSwHY4vlDN
@ElaineLJames
12 October 2016 20:59
@MarkNeary1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 THIS #weldns https://t.co/iV477Zy6s3
@tinavikki85
12 October 2016 20:59
That's a question many families have been asking #weldns https://twitter.com/twittleyjules/status/786292736303456261
@EmadLilo
12 October 2016 20:59
@MarkNeary1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 prac informed by empathy, kindness, including respecting wishes & feelings #weldns
@WeLDnurses
12 October 2016 20:59
RT @ElaineLJames: #7daysofaction exceptionally powerful thank you @MarkNeary1 @Markliamb @OfAction7 #weldns https://t.co/0S8qpKUotb
@PaulaHopes1
12 October 2016 21:00
@MarkNeary1 @CommunityLd @WeLDnurses @SamSly2 @S411Y100 need for whole team approach to recruitment? person, family, proffessional #weldns




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