#WeNurses - Wednesday 7th December 2016 8pm (GMT Standard Time) Student Chat : The Future of Nursing Education

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This chat is guest hosted by @HannahS_RN @PUNC14Julie

This will be our (@HannahSTN and @PUNC14Julie) last tweetchat as @WeNurses Student Leaders and what an amazing year we have had. We would like to thank @AgencyNurse and @NRCUK for all the great opportunities and support they have given us. As we look to the future we decided to base our last chat on 'the future of nursing education'. 

There is a huge change about to happen in nursing education. With the student bursary being abolished and the creation of new types of nurse training, there is much anticipation and worry about the future of nursing in the UK. With the announcement today from the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt that there will be a new nursing degree apprenticeship scheme, we wonder what the future holds for student nurses attending universities. There has been heated debate today from students on social media about the value given to the nursing degree, what are your thoughts? Through our chat we would like to explore this more and hear the views of not only students but also lecturers,qualified nurses and the wider healthcare community. 

Evidence shows that degree educated nurses can reduce hospitals deaths, so can we improve the nursing degree course to make it suitable to train the nurse leaders of the future? At the recent RCN International Centenary Conference this was discussed by the RCN, the NMC and Nurse Educators. They shared ideas and controversies about integrating the four fields of nursing and reducing placement hours. What do you think about these ideas? Join us on 7th December for what is to be sure to be a busy and interesting chat.


http://www.kcl.ac.uk/nursing/newsevents/news/2014/degree-educated-nurses-can-reduce-hospital-deaths.aspx

See apprenticeship announcement here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-nursing-degree-apprenticeship







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@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:00
Welcome to @HannahSTN & @PUNC14Julie 's last tweetchat as @WeNurses Student leaders, its going to be an interesting one, so enjoy #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:01
Can't believe it is the last one! The year has flown by!! #wenurses https://t.co/KUCUQahIW0
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:02
#WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:02
First question of the night! #wenurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806589602823884806
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:02
First question of the night! #wenurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806589602823884806
@UrbanSentiment
07 December 2016 20:02
WeNurses : #WeNurses https://t.co/rUqNdWCNhp
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:02
Hello Teresa here .... and what a subject for your last chat as #WeNurses leaders :) https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806589274191724544
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:02
RT @HannahSTN: Can't believe it is the last one! The year has flown by!! #wenurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806589274191724544
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:03
Great question #WeNurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806589602823884806
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:03
RT @councilofdeans: #WeNurses We've published a discussion paper of the role of the #futurenurse and nursing education https://t.co/EB9vdhq…
@nikkimlucas
07 December 2016 20:03
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:03
evening all #wenurses https://t.co/IZkMQnw6Hj
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:03
Great background reading (or for after!) for tonight's chat! #WeNurses https://twitter.com/councilofdeans/status/806516013068091392
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:03
Tonight's subject is 'The future of nursing education' #WeNurses
@LoretteGijsbers
07 December 2016 20:03
#WeNurses https://t.co/hy2Ionc3Ko
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:04
Hello #wenurses :-) https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806589602823884806
@MerielChudleigh
07 December 2016 20:04
RT @WeNurses: Tonight's subject is 'The future of nursing education' #WeNurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:04
#WeNurses Clinical placements are very important, but I sometimes wonder if we're being taught enough whilst in uni
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:04
Looking forward to tonight's chat #WeNurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806590000724905984
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:04
@WeNurses I think more could be done to bridge the gap between theory and practice #WeNurses
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:04
As we are struggling with numbers of mentors, perhaps there is something to the "less placement, more simulation" train of thought #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:05
@WeNurses nothing should stay the same. The world around us is changing and we need to keep up. Nurse training can change. #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:05
@WeNurses I'd like more equal placements. 4, 6 and 10 weeks it just weird. Newer blocks have all equal 6 and more placement areas #WeNurses
@Bartontd
07 December 2016 20:06
Evening all #davewave from #swansea - I have a nasty cold - you didn't need to know that but I thought I would share nevertheless #wenurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:06
I am enjoying my course so far but I do feel that mine specifically is lacking in simulation/skills hours - I would like more! #WeNurses
@JonathanCliffe8
07 December 2016 20:06
RT @WeNurses: Tonight's subject is 'The future of nursing education' #WeNurses
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:06
have you looked at 'clip ? #WeNurses #
@Bartontd
07 December 2016 20:06
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:06
May is the time to watch the NMC in regard to pre reg standards ... tweet from @JackieSmith_nmc earlier #WeNurses https://t.co/wwdZFHx8ap
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:06
What do you think? #WeNurses https://t.co/9XhaQ6miw2
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:07
We touched on this with @studentquality and @NWStudentNurse Sounds very interesting #WeNurses https://t.co/3LbQYzRJ6R
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:07
@FitzyP_26 no one will ever teach you enough. How much is enough? There is so much knowledge out there waiting for you #wenurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:07
@WeNurses I'd like to make sure that education is fluid and moves with tech, knowledge and political context #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:07
This is the link to watch for more info #WeNurses https://twitter.com/nmcnews/status/806545052378009600
@Bartontd
07 December 2016 20:07
@WeNurses For Nurse Education read CURRICULUM - Curriculum is evolutionary and responsive - it should NEVER stay the same.....#wenurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:07
My PT and me were talking about more of an older school education. 4 years, like USA teach. Good, cross branch knowledge #WeNurses
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:08
#wenurses I think nurse education needs to constantly change regardless due to the ever evolving nature of the nursing role :-)
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:08
https://hee.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/documents/CLiP-Paper-final-version-Sept-14.pdf #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:08
@wendy_uk_ @WeNurses what would you like to see happen to close the gap? #wenurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:08
RT @wlasinclair: @WeNurses I'd like to make sure that education is fluid and moves with tech, knowledge and political context #wenurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:08
@SalfordNurSoc each university produces at least 200 nurses per annum. Do they all go on to become #mentors? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:08
@Bartontd awww Dave - hoping that you are being well looked after xx #WeNurses
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:09
@WeNurses personally I'd like a bit more MH, LD & child exposure even if the course had to be longer! #wenurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:09
RT @AgencyNurse: May is the time to watch the NMC in regard to pre reg standards ... tweet from @JackieSmith_nmc earlier #WeNurses https://…
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:09
@LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses how do you find short placements #wenurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:09
#WeNurses https://t.co/6h1d52Ofil
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:09
#WeNurses placements are prime - its always a balance
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:09
Lots of changes afoot - with nursing associate coming into play and no bursary soon #WeNurses https://t.co/nSyi1diz8x
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:09
@wlasinclair @WeNurses That students would be allowed to things in practice with guidance that they taught in theory #WeNurses
@GreavesHold
07 December 2016 20:10
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/6h1d52Ofil
@cabutty
07 December 2016 20:10
#WeNurses get the curriculum sitting on a proper evidence base and cut out the opinionated touchy-feely none sense
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:10
@rachaelmajor1 @WeNurses Disappointing. I was just getting into the swing of my last and building relationships and then I'm off! #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:10
Interesting - I guess it's all about balance and perhaps facilities? #wenurses https://t.co/Ci0dlLA5hi
@SueMHogston
07 December 2016 20:10
#WeNurses nurse education needs to retain at degree level but wider access to gain qualification is a must
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:10
#WeNurses https://t.co/SnQNu4YjMh
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:11
@LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 @WeNurses Yes but if you had 3 years on one placement would that not inhibit? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:11
Are longer placements better? #WeNurses https://t.co/oWGFhUFWy1
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:11
If there is "more" of something invariably there will also need to be less of something too #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:11
Oh yes. But 4 weeks just isn't long enough - there needs to be a balance I think. #WeNurses https://t.co/Hy69zRk1T5
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:11
@WeNurses Some Unis have just 2 per year #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:11
Do people think an extra year would help ? #wenurses https://t.co/N1kn2vhft9
@Bartontd
07 December 2016 20:11
In a world of change our challenge is to discover what nursing must become whilst retaining all the best of what nursing has been. #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:12
RT @CstMitch: @WeNurses personally I'd like a bit more MH, LD & child exposure even if the course had to be longer! #wenurses
@SP_Duckworth
07 December 2016 20:12
In a system of scarcity..... Yes. #WeNurses https://twitter.com/AgencyNurse/status/806591948228325376
@shizc1
07 December 2016 20:12
@chris_dlamini @SalfordNurSoc #wenurses while there is a lace for simulation more is gained from lived experiences
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:12
@wendy_uk_ @WeNurses has this been your experience? #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:12
RT @SueMHogston: #WeNurses nurse education needs to retain at degree level but wider access to gain qualification is a must
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:12
@WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 #wenurses alternately sometimes I'm relieved to be back in uni after a long placement stint!
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:12
@WeNurses maybe should be more focus on quality rather than quantity of hours? #wenurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:12
What do students and lecturers think of this? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/NursingBolton/status/806592069141729280
@JonathanCliffe8
07 December 2016 20:12
You can never have too much exposure to the clinical area #WeNurses - clinical practice will always serve as a bene… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/806592357864980480
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:13
#WeNurses unless we try out new models of #nursetraining, we will always fear #change. #embrace #testout #repeat
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:13
RT @JonathanCliffe8: You can never have too much exposure to the clinical area #WeNurses - clinical practice will always serve as a benefit…
@Bartontd
07 December 2016 20:13
@AgencyNurse The Wine is Medicinal #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:13
Yes indeed #WeNurses https://t.co/kF2s3cMXuY
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:13
RT @cabutty: #WeNurses get the curriculum sitting on a proper evidence base and cut out the opinionated touchy-feely none sense
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:13
#WeNurses what do you think? Do you 'enjoy' when you are more comfortable? Should that really mean time for a change?
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:13
RT @CstMitch: @WeNurses maybe should be more focus on quality rather than quantity of hours? #wenurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:13
@chris_dlamini I'm a big believer in self learning, but we do need the foundations to build on #WeNurses
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:13
@KellyPediNp @WeNurses Yes I agree, but I feel more practical experience would make students feel better about qualifying #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:13
@WeNurses Every learner is different - not all ready. Working as HCA before was adv to me. Would a year working be a requirement? #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:13
@AgencyNurse my PT did it the old 4 year way and has a wealth of knowledge working in each field. Couldn't hurt! #WeNurses
@JohnBaker_Leeds
07 December 2016 20:13
RT @cabutty: #WeNurses get the curriculum sitting on a proper evidence base and cut out the opinionated touchy-feely none sense
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:13
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses it's about the right exposure to experiences and this can be done and still maintain core nu… https://t.co/duSPlr0ptt
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:13
#wenurses I'd say quality is more important than quantity
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:14
@JonathanCliffe8 yes but so many students report issues with placements - due to not enough mentors or mentors who don't seem care #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:14
Oops #wenurses sorry https://twitter.com/annedraya/status/806592525054201861
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:14
RT @abigailstdnurse: @WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 #wenurses alternately sometimes I'm relieved to be back in uni after a long pl…
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:14
Its great to feel part of a team #WeNurses https://twitter.com/annedraya/status/806592525054201861
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:14
@NursingBolton @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses a balance between range of experiences and long enough to enable effective assessment #wenurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:14
Sad to hear mentors who don't care. But shortage of mentors is an issue in my area too #WeNurses https://twitter.com/HannahSTN/status/806592618792701957
@ywilkinson1
07 December 2016 20:15
RT @councilofdeans: #WeNurses We've published a discussion paper of the role of the #futurenurse and nursing education https://t.co/EB9vdhq…
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:15
@WeNurses I'm a NQN and I loved the hub & spoke model! Got to exp loads of different areas & gained insight into many career paths #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:15
@abigailstdnurse @WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 many students report this.Can be isolating on placement so good to return #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:15
Be interesting to here from students and mentored readers this #WeNurses https://t.co/hmJ7vkWXMg
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:15
@wlasinclair @WeNurses Yes I really do feel their is a definitive gap from what I know to what I experience #WeNurses
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:15
@rachaelmajor1 @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses ......... and challenging new experiences #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:15
@WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 I think so - time to gain trust, skills and confidence BUT placements would need variation #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:15
RT @cabutty: #WeNurses get the curriculum sitting on a proper evidence base and cut out the opinionated touchy-feely none sense
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:15
@WeNurses It depends on the stds level of experience prior. Some students need p/ments for confidence building more than learning #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:15
Many students like to connect with their peers during placement, does this happen enough? #WeNurses https://t.co/Z1m5cjeekW
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:15
@WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 depends on the placement but really helps you get to know area well! #wenurses
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:15
@annedraya @WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 and so maybe teamworking experience is harder to gain? #wenurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @wendy_uk_: @wlasinclair @WeNurses Yes I really do feel their is a definitive gap from what I know to what I experience #WeNurses
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:16
@NursingBolton @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses need a chance to develop and show true potential #wenurses
@GreavesHold
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @CstMitch: @WeNurses maybe should be more focus on quality rather than quantity of hours? #wenurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @CstMitch: @WeNurses @LukiKnowsBest @rachaelmajor1 depends on the placement but really helps you get to know area well! #wenurses
@karenlha
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @WeNurses: Many students like to connect with their peers during placement, does this happen enough? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/abigailstdnurse/status/806592304798728192
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:16
@rachaelmajor1 @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses Yes - how long is that? #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:16
RT @rachaelmajor1: @NursingBolton @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses need a chance to develop and show true potential #wenurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:16
@WeNurses Would simulation and clinical placement time split evenly be more beneficial? Quality over quantity #wenurses
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:17
I often find placement lonely, cohort all have different shift patterns so hard to get together unless for mandatory day/class #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:17
@WeNurses I think it's the right amount but would rather practice hours be spread over 4 years rather than 3 years #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:17
@WeNurses twitter, facebook, WhatsApp...use them all to stay in touch and connect #wenurses
@vipvctraining
07 December 2016 20:17
@HannahSTN @JonathanCliffe8 #wenurses that upsets me mentors need to be honoured to pass on knowledge to keep patients safe & future nurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:17
Is the answer more placement hours or better preceptorship?? #wenurses https://twitter.com/wendy_uk_/status/806592934325997569
@shizc1
07 December 2016 20:17
#wenurses we need to bring back the clinical tutors to support student learning and assessment this would support both students and mentors
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:17
@NursingBolton @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses depends on student experience and placement but at least 6 weeks? #wenurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:18
#WeNurses https://t.co/mGA1KnFvbA
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:18
RT @wlasinclair: @WeNurses twitter, facebook, WhatsApp...use them all to stay in touch and connect #wenurses
@LyndaHassell
07 December 2016 20:18
RT @ImperialNHSjobs: We have Recruitment Day on the 12th December, to find out more click here https://t.co/P9YCN5LiX5 #WeAHPs #WeNurses #W…
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:18
But not all university's use this model, do we need to have the same in all unversities? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/lounurse04/status/806592903011323905
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:18
@LukiKnowsBest you are of course right. Just get settled then we move you on! could be good if the placement doesn't suit though #wenurses
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:18
@FitzyP_26 sim lab would allow time to practice clinical skills under lecture supervision where technique is agreed, not debated #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:18
@AgencyNurse @LukiKnowsBest I did 4 years and still worked my socks off! Never understood how other courses managed it in 3 years! #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:18
Experience on placements dependent on where students are on course and quality of support and preparation #WeNurses https://t.co/bd4W4hDe7g
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:18
@rachaelmajor1 @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses indeed - cant plan that in a programme tho sadly #WeNurses
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:18
Does length of placement affect ability to become part of a 'team' and work towards teamwork experience? Any experiences? #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:19
@KarriPops @WeNurses @HannahSTN @SalfordNurSoc there is so much support for students on here #wenurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:19
@FitzyP_26 @WeNurses see at my uni 100% of practice hours were on placement & not simulated. Interesting that unis differ on that #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:19
@AgencyNurse @LukiKnowsBest hard to say if that 4th year was a help. I think now people would worry about cost of a 4th year #WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:19
RT @fussy1958: Experience on placements dependent on where students are on course and quality of support and preparation #WeNurses https://…
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:19
@fussy1958 yes definitely #wenurses
@nikkimlucas
07 December 2016 20:19
Should your mentor be your assessor ? #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:19
@karentomlinRN @AgencyNurse @LukiKnowsBest true, maybe it would put even more people off! #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:19
#WeNurses #SoMe must be used as part of #nursetraining to embed relationships btn #nurses #mentors #stns. Twitter and FB are here
@WelshHospChoir
07 December 2016 20:19
Exactly ONE WEEK until our #Christmas concert at @stdavidshall #Cardiff! https://www.facebook.com/events/1668375463423514/?ti=cl #WeNurses https://t.co/9ftg1LFECM
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:19
@shizc1 we have those here @NursingBolton - makes a difference #WeNurses 1 tutor per intake - placed in Trust
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:19
RT @wlasinclair: @KarriPops @WeNurses @HannahSTN @SalfordNurSoc there is so much support for students on here #wenurses
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:20
@AgencyNurse I think a better perceptorship would work having that support and guidance whilst in a practical environment #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:20
A really excellent question ? #wenurses https://t.co/rk61GskNLK
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:20
RT @chris_dlamini: #WeNurses #SoMe must be used as part of #nursetraining to embed relationships btn #nurses #mentors #stns. Twitter and FB…
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:20
Agreed!! #WeNurses https://t.co/OxPYOoOrQO
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:20
Agreed!! #WeNurses https://t.co/Clbx056Uzi
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:20
RT @chris_dlamini: #WeNurses #SoMe must be used as part of #nursetraining to embed relationships btn #nurses #mentors #stns. Twitter and FB…
@JonathanCliffe8
07 December 2016 20:20
@HannahSTN issues would have to be tackled if there was to be an ?? in practice hours! #WeNurses
@lindawr06210728
07 December 2016 20:20
RT @councilofdeans: #WeNurses We've published a discussion paper of the role of the #futurenurse and nursing education https://t.co/EB9vdhq…
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:20
@WeNurses @lounurse04 Would more uniformity across all universities would be helpful so NQNs have similar skill set maybe? #WeNurses
@HealthUKTD
07 December 2016 20:20
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:20
Totally agree #WeNurses https://t.co/CmvGHE1e2S
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:20
@fussy1958 absolutely, I've built confidence over course which wouldn't have happened without spending time getting used to it #wenurses
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:20
@NursingBolton @LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses perhaps longer placenta at beginning and end #wenurses
@BriMcgowan
07 December 2016 20:21
RT @councilofdeans: #WeNurses We've published a discussion paper of the role of the #futurenurse and nursing education https://t.co/EB9vdhq…
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:21
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses the OU tripartite mentor model worked really well for us, bridging theory & practice https://t.co/9ZLtQ2KIIr
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:21
#WeNurses https://t.co/4EDhLyujUo
@irisbenson100
07 December 2016 20:21
RT @WeNurses: Many students like to connect with their peers during placement, does this happen enough? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/abigailstdnurse/status/806592304798728192
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:21
@WeNurses strange that uni's have different course structures, considering we're all going to be working in the same profession #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:21
Personally I think only 1 year specialising would be too little - maybe 1 year general then the rest specific? #WeNurses
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:21
@WeNurses like a generic? To be a generic you need them all #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:21
@WeNurses @lounurse04 terminology confusing sometimes, Hub & spoke doesn't even mean the same thing at different unis! #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:22
Excellent model @hill_karenhill3 #WeNurses https://twitter.com/hill_karenhill3/status/806594398096150534
@UrbanSentiment
07 December 2016 20:22
WeNurses : #WeNurses https://t.co/VJx5vrqwf8
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:22
Oooh great question #wenurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806594407994638336
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:22
#WeNurses This is a good idea https://twitter.com/averyvazon/status/806594374922551301
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:22
#WeNurses gone are the days of education (knowledge) being a cake for the elite. It is #everybody's business. Stns must be involved.
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:22
@averyvazon @wlasinclair @WeNurses Absolutely! it is unfair that mentors don't get this and it does have a negative impact on both#WeNurses
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:22
@HannahSTN @karentomlinRN @AgencyNurse @LukiKnowsBest there is more and more to get in a 3 year programme #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:23
@WeNurses as a Project 2000 student nurse we have 18 months all together and 18 months of specialism #WeNurses
@RN_Abigail
07 December 2016 20:23
@WeNurses whether good or bad, you have to wonder if this could be future necessity due to places for paeds/LD/MH? #wenurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:23
#wenurses https://twitter.com/LukiKnowsBest/status/806594945360547841
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:23
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses me too #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:23
I think so too #WeNurses https://twitter.com/hannahstn/status/806594570880503810
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:23
@WeNurses Don't think 1yr is enough to specialise in your field, but is 1st yr of generic enough to build on? More balance needed #WeNurses
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:23
@abigailstdnurse @WeNurses ??% Other NQNs I spk 2 had just 3placements a yr. said they felt limited in exp compared to what I'd had#WeNurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:23
by 'core' do you mean adult nursing? #wenurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806594407994638336
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:23
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses This is a good idea https://twitter.com/averyvazon/status/806594374922551301
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:23
@WeNurses @lounurse04 wow thought all would have it! Love my spokes, helps me understand MDT & communicate their roles to patients #wenurses
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:24
@annedraya @WeNurses hub = 1 long placement per yr of training with small placements integrated throughout. Really good exp #WeNurses
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:24
@wlasinclair Can we not integrate both somehow #WeNurses
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:24
@SalfordNurSoc We have placements @NursingBolton to add to the exposure document #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:24
@NursingBolton @WeNurses there are a few of us about ??#WeNurses #project2000rocks
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:24
@HannahSTN pretty sure it used to be like that then they changed it ! I'm for 2 fields- adult & child #wenurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:24
@HannahSTN agreed think important to reinforce skills learned in the environment you choose to care in #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:25
RT @fussy1958: Longer placements towards end of course - maybe assist with development of management and leadership skills ? #WeNurses http…
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:25
@CstMitch @WeNurses same! Was lucky enough to also exp mental health, LD, child & maternity in my training ! #wenurses
@katiel0uise
07 December 2016 20:25
@WeNurses I think integration would be beneficial to staff & pts but 1 year specialising not long enough #wenurses maybe just 1st yr core?
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:25
#wenurses > https://twitter.com/bad_diabetic/status/806595162336067585
@shizc1
07 December 2016 20:25
@averyvazon @wendy_uk_ @wlasinclair #WeNurses agree totally, difficult for mentors to carry out assessments more so if student has problems
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:25
@HannahSTN Definitely, but is 1 yr general enough? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:26
Anyone else feel this would work ? #wenurses https://t.co/BoF97OR5GZ
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:26
Also the ward leadership plays a significant part @fussy1958 #WeNurses in placement experiences https://t.co/cUVcpuMr6t
@pauljebb1
07 December 2016 20:26
@WeNurses I've been part of the thought leadership group on this. Great piece of work taking nurse education forward #WeNurses
@BoltonNursing
07 December 2016 20:26
#WeNurses sorry tweeps - have to go. great chat. Ill catch up on the transciipt. Good thing is - evolution - and we all deal with it xx
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:26
@NursingBolton that sounds good - some students at Salford get anxious about trying to ensure they get enough exposure! #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:26
@rachaelmajor1 @HannahSTN @karentomlinRN @LukiKnowsBest do is the answer 4 years ? #wenurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:26
@LukiKnowsBest this by @cypnauk explains the issue with 'generic/core' #wenurses https://t.co/zbEgnn0Fvs
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:26
RT @wlasinclair: @LukiKnowsBest this by @cypnauk explains the issue with 'generic/core' #wenurses https://t.co/zbEgnn0Fvs
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:27
@wlasinclair To be taught clinical skills across the board,adult nurses should be taught how to do obs and CPR on children too #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:27
RT @wlasinclair: @LukiKnowsBest this by @cypnauk explains the issue with 'generic/core' #wenurses https://t.co/zbEgnn0Fvs
@pauljebb1
07 December 2016 20:27
@SalfordNurSoc may be worth taking to @warnetony as he was part of group #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:27
@WeNurses my opinion yes keep all fields. Why generalise nursing yet some professions specialise. Teachers, doctors etc #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:27
@WeNurses did the reduction in core programme help? Have we seen a change with more branch? #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:28
@hill_karenhill3 good point #WeNurses
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:28
@lounurse04 @WeNurses spokes are so great for crossfield exposure! Hoping I get some maternity experience before I qualify too! #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:28
@SalfordNurSoc @WeNurses @lounurse04 yep! At Nottingham we would call those "insight visits". A spoke was a separate placement #wenurses
@DrEmBurns
07 December 2016 20:28
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/4EDhLyujUo
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:28
@WeNurses @wlasinclair Although I'm a CYP student, our OSCEs are adult based which doesn't seem right #WeNurses
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:29
It would certainly help mentors @abigailstdnurse, what does the evidence tell us? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/abigailstdnurse/status/806594311471190016
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:29
RT @FitzyP_26: @WeNurses @wlasinclair Although I'm a CYP student, our OSCEs are adult based which doesn't seem right #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:29
RT @katiel0uise: @WeNurses I think integration would be beneficial to staff & pts but 1 year specialising not long enough #wenurses maybe j…
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:29
@WeNurses @wlasinclair as adult field we were taught child & infant CPR, all other clinical skills were adult though #wenurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:29
RT @annedraya: @HannahSTN pretty sure it used to be like that then they changed it ! I'm for 2 fields- adult & child #wenurses
@nikkimlucas
07 December 2016 20:29
As a mentor I struggle with the final placement being called the 'management placement ' - focus could be on transition #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:29
@UrbanSentiment let's embrace specialist knowledge & diverse patient populations. However, need to be able to #nurse competently #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:30
@chris_dlamini @WeNurses and is there any benefit to more specialism? Couple of yrs ago talk of a community/primary care branch #wenurses
@SueMHogston
07 December 2016 20:30
And children's nurses taught adult CPR #WeNurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806595912986488832
@rachaelmajor1
07 December 2016 20:30
@AgencyNurse @HannahSTN @karentomlinRN @LukiKnowsBest difficult -costs but 4th year could be formalised preceptorship #wenurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:30
@nikkimlucas I agree actually! Surely management skills would be better placed on preceptorship? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:30
What do you think of this #WeNurses ? https://twitter.com/FitzyP_26/status/806596291367227394
@Nurse_DeeDee
07 December 2016 20:30
RT @katiel0uise: @WeNurses I think integration would be beneficial to staff & pts but 1 year specialising not long enough #wenurses maybe j…
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:31
@annedraya @WeNurses spokes at my uni ranged 1-4wks. opp for prison nursing, clinics, community, work with specialist nurses #WeNurses
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:31
Agree & enabling transistion & belonging @fussy1958 #WeNurses https://twitter.com/fussy1958/status/806595015908749312
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:31
#WeNurses https://t.co/l1xGPVkEs9
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:31
#wenurses standards important to be outcome focused, allowing innovation in terms of how we get there @councilofdeans
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:31
@LukiKnowsBest @WeNurses @wlasinclair many of these things Re crucial in physical health care too - communication essential #WeNurses
@KindredBelle
07 December 2016 20:31
RT @CstMitch: @WeNurses maybe should be more focus on quality rather than quantity of hours? #wenurses
@wlasinclair
07 December 2016 20:32
RT @katerinakolyva: #wenurses standards important to be outcome focused, allowing innovation in terms of how we get there @councilofdeans
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:32
RT @HannahSTN: @nikkimlucas I agree actually! Surely management skills would be better placed on preceptorship? #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:32
Love this thought. Transition is scary so let's help it! Would it help early loss of nurses too? #WeNurses https://twitter.com/nikkimlucas/status/806596595504607234
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:32
Really ? #wenurses https://twitter.com/fitzyp_26/status/806596291367227394
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:32
Can think of pros & cons.. Perhaps preceptorships should be standardised so same across all trusts? #WeNurses
@UrbanSentiment
07 December 2016 20:32
WeNurses : #WeNurses https://t.co/wnbxQwIeRf
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:32
#WeNurses stns can never be taught or exposed enough. If this was possible then nurse training shd last ten years. #scaffolding #cpd
@shizc1
07 December 2016 20:32
#WeNurses @wlasinclair childrens cpr and choking part of mandatory training, adult student nurses don't nee2b able to do obs etc on kids
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:32
RT @SueMHogston: And children's nurses taught adult CPR #WeNurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806595912986488832
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:33
Can't prescribing be part of the course and preceptorship be true consolidation #WeNurses https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806597019297075206
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:33
@fussy1958 @wlasinclair precisely my point. many transferrable skills in MH that can make adult/CYP better skilled in their field #WeNurses
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:33
@annedraya @SalfordNurSoc @WeNurses we could organise day visits during our hubs &spokes with permission from mentors at @wlv_uni #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:33
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/l1xGPVkEs9
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:33
#wenurses future proof standards and aligned to @nmcnews #code principles @councilofdeans
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:33
@lounurse04 @WeNurses we had arranged 4-5 week spokes and a 4 week elective placement. All uni's should do electives IMO #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:33
A very good point #WeNurses https://twitter.com/katerinakolyva/status/806597108816080896
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:34
@WeNurses eek don't think I'd like to prescribe til I know specialist area better - maybe bloods, IVs, cannulas, catheters etc? #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:34
@katerinakolyva @councilofdeans there gas to be wriggle room so we can continue to innovate, grow &I develop as a profession #WeNurses
@karentomlinRN
07 December 2016 20:34
@fussy1958 @WeNurses I think too much too soon. Prescribing is demanding course and do we need all nurses to be prescribers? #WeNurses
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:35
@annedraya @WeNurses we had our electives as our very last placements so we were able to use them where we secured jobs! #WeNurses #useful
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:35
Agree @katerinakolyva need for flexibility & creativity across all practice learning opportunities #WeNurses https://twitter.com/katerinakolyva/status/806597108816080896
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:35
This sounds like a good idea #WeNurses https://twitter.com/nikkimlucas/status/806596595504607234
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:35
@lounurse04 @WeNurses @annedraya ours are generally a day!! Can maybe get a week if on a longer placement! #wenurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:35
@WeNurses I think so yes. Issue I've seen is preceptorships are sometimes tick box exercises #WeNurses
@JonathanCliffe8
07 December 2016 20:35
@WeNurses briefly touched on but precepitorship programmes would need to be standard across all trusts for it to work effectively #wenurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:35
@WeNurses Once we qualify it seems like there is still so much training we need to undertake. Can this not be included in pre-reg? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:35
RT @karentomlinRN: Love this thought. Transition is scary so let's help it! Would it help early loss of nurses too? #WeNurses https://t.co/…
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:36
@WeNurses preceptorship shd continue as it is. Stns need as much exposure before qualifying. #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:36
@nikkimlucas I really enjoyed my management placement- think I got a good blend of management & transition experience #wenurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:36
@SueMHogston @HannahSTN @nikkimlucas exposure to management/leadership skills in last placement & reinforced in preceptorship ? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:36
@karentomlinRN @nikkimlucas perhaps finishing the placement with a plan for qualifying & areas to focus on #WeNurses
@karmicgirl
07 December 2016 20:36
@WeNurses @averyvazon @wendy_uk_ @wlasinclair That's what's meNt to happn #WeNurses nurse
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:36
@WeNurses It's quite restrictive having 4 fields, combination in training would be better, need LD, Peads & MH in Primarycare #WeNurses 1/2
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:36
@karentomlinRN @nikkimlucas think we have to get better at transition from student to nurse #WeNurses
@tattooratti
07 December 2016 20:36
#WeNurses https://twitter.com/tattooratti/status/806597830441893889
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:36
@CstMitch @WeNurses @annedraya why is that? Lack of mentors/placements? #wenurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:37
@annedraya @lounurse04 personally think that last placement should be elective! #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:37
RT @katerinakolyva: #wenurses future proof standards and aligned to @nmcnews #code principles @councilofdeans
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:37
@FitzyP_26 @WeNurses Venepuncture and cannulation in pre-reg + full IV competencies would be amazing #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:37
RT @hill_karenhill3: Agree @katerinakolyva need for flexibility & creativity across all practice learning opportunities #WeNurses https://t…
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:37
@AgencyNurse @nikkimlucas my final placement is called building confidence ?? #wenurses
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:37
Good point @fussy1958 time for different conversations & courage #WeNurses https://twitter.com/fussy1958/status/806597423867039744
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:37
??#WeNurses https://twitter.com/lukiknowsbest/status/806598080036556801
@ProfJuneG
07 December 2016 20:38
@karentomlinRN @AgencyNurse @nikkimlucas Would hope a lot of final year is on transition.#wenurses
@janey513
07 December 2016 20:38
@AgencyNurse @nikkimlucas ours are consolidation placements #WeNurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:38
@annedraya @WeNurses Completely agree, although I know it's different across the 4 fields #WeNurses
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:38
@lounurse04 @WeNurses @annedraya I'm not sure actually! Possibly due to lack of placements yes! #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:38
Lifelong learning .... you never stop ??#WeNurses https://t.co/MekNoqphsD
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:38
RT @annedraya: @FitzyP_26 @WeNurses Venepuncture and cannulation in pre-reg + full IV competencies would be amazing #wenurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:38
@HannahSTN @lounurse04 I liked that my elective placement was a chance to experience something different, not what I'd do for mgt #WeNurses
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:38
#wenurses promoting health and well being, research, support self care: all important aspects of future standards @councilofdeans
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:39
@HannahSTN @annedraya our electives were last. I moved trust after training - so was gd to find my feet & gain exp b4 my pin #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:39
@EllzSummary @WeNurses hadn't thought about this .... so more fields needed ? #wenurses
@adminkelley
07 December 2016 20:39
RT @katherinekingRN: @RoseAnnDeMoro @NNUBonnie @NationalNurses #nursing #WeNurses #NursesActuallyUnite #SafeStaffing #NursesTakeDC https://…
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:39
RT @hill_karenhill3: Agree @katerinakolyva need for flexibility & creativity across all practice learning opportunities #WeNurses https://t…
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:39
@WeNurses thought that might be the case! We'll get taught this when we qualify by our trusts but nothing before #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:39
FAB :) #WeNurses https://twitter.com/cstmitch/status/806598563316768768
@JonathanCliffe8
07 December 2016 20:39
@WeNurses @CstMitch Which would highlight the importance for a standard curriculum... All reading from the same hymn sheet! #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:39
@karentomlinRN @WeNurses absolutely. Specialism ensures all fields are respected otherwise so risk becoming extinct #WeNurses
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:39
RT @AgencyNurse: A very good point #WeNurses https://twitter.com/katerinakolyva/status/806597108816080896
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:39
#WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:40
@AgencyNurse just keep learning #wenurses https://t.co/rz6EQdkWT8
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:40
@WeNurses I would keep prescribing as advanced skill post registration, lots to learn in training #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:40
RT @EllzSummary: @WeNurses I would keep prescribing as advanced skill post registration, lots to learn in training #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:40
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:40
@WeNurses but venepuncture, cannulation skills could be learnt in training #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:40
RT @HannahSTN: Personally I think only 1 year specialising would be too little - maybe 1 year general then the rest specific? #WeNurses
@karenagriffiths
07 December 2016 20:40
@WeNurses are the different fields actually specialisms or does the specialist aspect occur post qualification? #WeNurses
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:40
So true @AgencyNurse #WeNurses ?? https://t.co/dab0AlG7tw
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:40
@LukiKnowsBest hahahaha yes that's us :)) #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:41
RT @EllzSummary: @WeNurses I would keep prescribing as advanced skill post registration, lots to learn in training #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:41
I definitely want to be a mentor! Plan is to do it as soon as I am confident, and whilst I can still remember being a student! ;) #WeNurses
@lashesbylouuk
07 December 2016 20:41
@annedraya @HannahSTN also felt I could utilise skills more in 3rd yr. An elec in 2nd yr I feel would of been wasted 4me #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:41
I'd LOVE to be a mentor. We can learn so much just from observing other's teaching style #WeNurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806599148812247040
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:41
#wenurses patients must be asked what they feel #stns need to be taught. #wenurses
@hill_karenhill3
07 December 2016 20:41
RT @katerinakolyva: #wenurses promoting health and well being, research, support self care: all important aspects of future standards @coun…
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:41
This is what it feels like to be a student nurses #WeNurses https://twitter.com/LukiKnowsBest/status/806599161504268288
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:41
@WeNurses I'd love to be a mentor! Would be good to encourage 3rd yrs to help mentor 1st years for example! #wenurses
@UHDB_PLSU
07 December 2016 20:41
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/l1xGPVkEs9
@jimgblair
07 December 2016 20:42
RT @HannahSTN: Personally I think only 1 year specialising would be too little - maybe 1 year general then the rest specific? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:42
Don't worry it all falls into place .... honestly:) #wenurses https://twitter.com/fitzyp_26/status/806599116121837568
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:42
Opportunities to mentor students in the years below is good practice! All unis should have a formalised peer mentoring scheme #WeNurses
@karmicgirl
07 December 2016 20:42
I think I'm hearing the dirty words National Curriculum ?? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:42
RT @HannahSTN: Definitely, some nurses I've worked with are shocked that we don't get trained to do IV's until preceptorship! #wenurses htt…
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:42
@AgencyNurse @FitzyP_26 @WeNurses agreed but need to decide core elements for pre reg - these are changing #WeNurses
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:42
@HannahSTN Go for it Hannah, motivated, enthusiastic mentors always welcome #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:43
YES #wenurses https://t.co/DzRppx4ePy
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:43
RT @LukiKnowsBest: I'd LOVE to be a mentor. We can learn so much just from observing other's teaching style #WeNurses https://t.co/Jv1fY6jW…
@UHDB_PLSU
07 December 2016 20:43
RT @annedraya: @FitzyP_26 @WeNurses Venepuncture and cannulation in pre-reg + full IV competencies would be amazing #wenurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:43
@AgencyNurse @CstMitch @nikkimlucas great description ... #WeNurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:43
@WeNurses Being a mentor whilst your own student experience is still fresh in your mind can only be beneficial for future students #WeNurses
@tattooratti
07 December 2016 20:43
@WeNurses I think more should be done to promote these different possibilities within nursing during time at university #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:43
RT @hill_karenhill3: Good point @fussy1958 time for different conversations & courage #WeNurses https://t.co/JtQcVy8og1
@katiel0uise
07 December 2016 20:44
@WeNurses I'm only going into 2nd yr & would love to be a mentor!Don't think mentors realise just how much they're appreciated #WeNurses
@mccarthy_ph
07 December 2016 20:44
@EllzSummary @WeNurses in our organisation we support these skills during training. Will make a big difference to patient care #WeNurses
@Li2_C
07 December 2016 20:44
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@liamdoogan
07 December 2016 20:44
I'm one-year qualified and there's no chance in heck I'd want to prescribe! Leave that responsibility to those with the knowledge #WeNurses
@HealthUKTD
07 December 2016 20:44
RT @FitzyP_26: @WeNurses @wlasinclair Although I'm a CYP student, our OSCEs are adult based which doesn't seem right #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:44
@WeNurses Mentoring is definitely in my future! I love teaching. Also probably will end up a lecturer eventually ??#wenurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:44
@katiel0uise I always make sure I tell mentors if they have been great role models! And treat them to hand cream and sweets haha #WeNurses
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:44
#wenurses we're talking approaches across #UK and learn from good practice across 4 countries is a must despite recognising differences
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:45
RT @LukiKnowsBest: YES #wenurses https://t.co/DzRppx4ePy
@maxwele2
07 December 2016 20:45
RT @cabutty: #WeNurses get the curriculum sitting on a proper evidence base and cut out the opinionated touchy-feely none sense
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:45
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses Not more needed but training 4 area incorporated into branches, cross over between fields of nursing #WeNurses
@karenagriffiths
07 December 2016 20:45
@WeNurses needs to be flexible so can adapt to changes to remain current #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:45
RT @EllzSummary: @WeNurses but venepuncture, cannulation skills could be learnt in training #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:45
@liamdoogan not even things like dressings though? Current placement mentor could prescribe dressings (1) #wenurses
@shizc1
07 December 2016 20:46
@HannahSTN #wenurses important to get fundamental nursing skills then develop extended roles once qualified enough to cram into 3 yrs now
@nikkimlucas
07 December 2016 20:46
RT @LukiKnowsBest: YES #wenurses https://t.co/DzRppx4ePy
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:46
@WeNurses sounds fab! in placement or academically? We have this sort of thing to help with exams! #wenurses
@katerinakolyva
07 December 2016 20:46
RT @ProfJuneG: @karentomlinRN @AgencyNurse @nikkimlucas Would hope a lot of final year is on transition.#wenurses
@ProfJuneG
07 December 2016 20:46
@wendy_uk_ @WeNurses @nikkimlucas Could you not focus it how you want when you set your objectives at the start of the placement? #wenurses
@sammysarge
07 December 2016 20:47
@HannahSTN @WeNurses It frustrates me that as a B4 trained to cannulate & take blood I would not be able to do so during degree. #WeNurses
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:47
@WeNurses @CstMitch Definitely find that 1st yr students look to 2nd/3rd yr students for guidance whilst on placement #WeNurses
@nikkimlucas
07 December 2016 20:47
@LukiKnowsBest @SalfordNurSoc #WeNurses we had this discussion today
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:47
#WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:47
@sammysarge exactly, why are we deskilling people? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:48
@CstMitch Academically but planning more support for students during placement #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:48
@SalfordNurSoc this is my vision. I think we miss out on early identificatiin of future leaders. #stns nurse networks #peermentors #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:48
@FitzyP_26 @WeNurses don't think of qualifying as an end point to your learning but perhaps the start of a new path #wenurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:48
@liamdoogan mentor could give pt a prescription there and then for what they needed, meaning they left happier! #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:48
@lounurse04 @fussy1958 @WeNurses @FitzyP_26 I think it's daft that it's not. Try getting ahold of a clinical support worker at 7pm #WeNurses
@katiel0uise
07 December 2016 20:49
@HannahSTN me too haha!! They're all obviously so busy but then investing time in us and our learning is a lovely experience #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:49
@FitzyP_26 @WeNurses and being eager is brilliant ??#wenurses
@caitstm
07 December 2016 20:49
@FitzyP_26 @WeNurses I learnt so much from 3rd yrs when I was 1st yr on my 1st ward p'ment! Not worked with 1st yr as a 3rd yr tho!#wenurses
@wendy_uk_
07 December 2016 20:49
@ProfJuneG @WeNurses @nikkimlucas Yes I could but alot of my time is focused on achieving my competencies as it is for my mentor #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:49
Great to see mentors appreciated #WeNurses https://t.co/HJBtmcQS05
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:49
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:50
RT @EllzSummary: @HannahSTN Go for it Hannah, motivated, enthusiastic mentors always welcome #WeNurses
@tattooratti
07 December 2016 20:50
@WeNurses Care Ambassadors are the way forward. We go into schools and colleges to promote working in social care #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:50
RT @tattooratti: @WeNurses Care Ambassadors are the way forward. We go into schools and colleges to promote working in social care #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:50
@WeNurses need our role models and leaders out there demonstrating the complexity of our roles and our impact on care #WeNurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:50
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:50
Brilliant idea #WeNurses https://t.co/bcAuXmnJjO
@sammysarge
07 December 2016 20:50
@HannahSTN true skills of the job #WeNurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:50
RT @WeNurses: This is what it feels like to be a student nurses #WeNurses https://t.co/61Z6YCEhgK
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:50
@EllzSummary @WeNurses I feel like I have had a few great mentors who have shown me how I would like my students to feel about me! #wenurses
@MerielChudleigh
07 December 2016 20:51
RT @WeNurses: Great to see mentors appreciated #WeNurses https://twitter.com/katiel0uise/status/806600165645778945
@UCLanHealth
07 December 2016 20:51
#WeNurses #student chat 10 mins left https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806599148812247040
@caroldimon
07 December 2016 20:51
RT @tattooratti: @WeNurses Care Ambassadors are the way forward. We go into schools and colleges to promote working in social care #WeNurses
@sammysarge
07 December 2016 20:51
@SueMHogston @HannahSTN @WeNurses Agreed. Something I'm sure you'd soon pick up again, but why make someone potentially lose #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:51
Yes !!! #wenurses https://twitter.com/fussy1958/status/806601819510239233
@ProfJuneG
07 December 2016 20:51
Specialise after general training. Then you can apply all yr general expertise to the specialty. Helps. #wenurses HannahSTN @WeNurses
@sammysarge
07 December 2016 20:52
@SueMHogston @HannahSTN @WeNurses confidence and skill to begin with #WeNurses
@Amy_5haw
07 December 2016 20:52
RT @chris_dlamini: #wenurses patients must be asked what they feel #stns need to be taught. #wenurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:52
@WeNurses @katiel0uise especially sign off mentors! A good sign off mentor worth their weight in gold #wenurses
@Jones23Emma
07 December 2016 20:52
@UCLanNurses #wenurses chat on now https://t.co/kXIionm9Mt
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:52
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:52
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses @FitzyP_26 Learning is lifelong - along with application #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:52
This sounds like a really interesting project #WeNurses https://twitter.com/tattooratti/status/806601694868029440
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:52
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:52
@chris_dlamini @SalfordNurSoc Might formalised 'early identification' of leaders lead to elitism, develop at different pace #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:52
Final question this evening #WeNurses https://t.co/Ci1y5Ne9tD
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:52
Almost missed this question! #WeNurses
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:52
Almost missed this question! #WeNurses
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:53
@DavidHuggins66 @WeNurses need to add more of these skills in mentor preparation for existing staff too #wenurses
@swayoung01
07 December 2016 20:53
RT @AgencyNurse: May is the time to watch the NMC in regard to pre reg standards ... tweet from @JackieSmith_nmc earlier #WeNurses https://…
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:53
RT @fussy1958: @AgencyNurse @WeNurses @FitzyP_26 Learning is lifelong - along with application #wenurses
@Michelle_inHE
07 December 2016 20:53
RT @councilofdeans: #WeNurses We've published a discussion paper of the role of the #futurenurse and nursing education https://t.co/EB9vdhq…
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:53
@HannahSTN @WeNurses That's great to hear and once you're a mentor you can duplicate/replicate that #engagednurses #WeNurses
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:53
@WeNurses Hm. now there's a long question. It's very wooly what they're going to be doing. Is it going to add to stressed mentors #WeNurses
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:53
@WeNurses I think the debate is there as the roles and routes haven't been made clear enough.. people are worried! #WeNurses
@annedraya
07 December 2016 20:54
@WeNurses nursing associates bad bad bad idea. Give it a few years they will end up replacing RNs simply bc trusts have no money #WeNurses
@levylass
07 December 2016 20:54
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@HannahS_RN
07 December 2016 20:54
@WeNurses had lots of discussion around associates, students are worried the work we are trained to do is going to be taken off us #WeNurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:54
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/fQkKLgBvCf
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:55
@WeNurses #peermentoring, #peersupervision, #conferences, #stn led lectures. We have great stns out there. #great future leaders #wenurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:55
RT @WeNurses: Tonight's subject is 'The future of nursing education' #WeNurses
@SalfordNurSoc
07 December 2016 20:55
@lounurse04 @WeNurses we had a pilot at Salford but had the same issue! #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:55
RT @HannahSTN: @WeNurses I think the debate is there as the roles and routes haven't been made clear enough.. people are worried! #WeNurses
@LynnMrsgriffin
07 December 2016 20:55
Forging community links can help. some local pupils 'act' in clin sim. Then appear at entry interviews! #WeNurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:55
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/SnQNu4YjMh
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:55
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/4EDhLyujUo
@FitzyP_26
07 December 2016 20:55
@WeNurses Who will they be governed by? What banding will they be? What training will they have? #wenurses
@karenagriffiths
07 December 2016 20:55
@CstMitch @WeNurses agree, can learn more in less time. A proactive mentor helps #WeNurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:56
RT @wlasinclair: @LukiKnowsBest this by @cypnauk explains the issue with 'generic/core' #wenurses https://t.co/zbEgnn0Fvs
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:56
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/l1xGPVkEs9
@lauramgcu
07 December 2016 20:56
@WeNurses #WeNurses I think we need to look at flexible entry into caring but be cautious that this is not a replacement for registrants
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:56
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@tattooratti
07 December 2016 20:56
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses It is, also has great potential to show the different aspects of care like MH and LD #WeNurses
@chris_dlamini
07 December 2016 20:56
@WeNurses offer former stns opp. to return to uni to teach/speak. Build their skills, nurture and support #leadership #wenurses
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:56
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@EllzSummary
07 December 2016 20:57
@WeNurses Varied routes into nursing welcome, but don't want people become frustrated in position with little/no progression #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:57
So many questions about the future of nursing education #WeNurses https://twitter.com/FitzyP_26/status/806603132730015744
@WeMHNurses
07 December 2016 20:57
Final question #wenurses #students https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806602363234553861
@SueMHogston
07 December 2016 20:57
Governance of the role and NMC as regulator is key question mark over role #WeNurses https://twitter.com/fitzyp_26/status/806603132730015744
@LukiKnowsBest
07 December 2016 20:57
Too many. Where are the answers? How long until NA's are starting and we still don't know #WeNurses https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/806603519058919429
@pauljebb1
07 December 2016 20:57
@WeNurses #WeNurses need to ensure a real portrayal of the profession is shown by great role models!
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @lauramgcal: @WeNurses #WeNurses I think we need to look at flexible entry into caring but be cautious that this is not a replacement fo…
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @WeMHNurses: Final question #wenurses #students https://twitter.com/wenurses/status/806602363234553861
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:58
@WeNurses seen as opportunities and threats but we need to shape it - informed discussion needed #WeNurses
@HealthUKTD
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/7mS19R8oJV
@HealthUKTD
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @HannahSTN: Personally I think only 1 year specialising would be too little - maybe 1 year general then the rest specific? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @pauljebb1: @WeNurses #WeNurses need to ensure a real portrayal of the profession is shown by great role models!
@HealthUKTD
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @WeNurses: #WeNurses https://t.co/G2LLZaDfe5
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @pauljebb1: @WeNurses #WeNurses need to ensure a real portrayal of the profession is shown by great role models!
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:58
RT @fussy1958: @WeNurses seen as opportunities and threats but we need to shape it - informed discussion needed #WeNurses
@WeNurses
07 December 2016 20:59
RT @LukiKnowsBest: Too many. Where are the answers? How long until NA's are starting and we still don't know #WeNurses https://t.co/4oS9Nnp…
@fussy1958
07 December 2016 20:59
@ProfJuneG @WeNurses @FitzyP_26 so risk being managed - now roles need clarifying #WeNurses




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