#WeMHNs - Monday 13th March 2017 8pm (GMT Standard Time) Physical health care in mental health care

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Physical health care in mental health care

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This chat will be held on the 13th of March 8-9pm.

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Background

Case study one: Irene is a 62-year-old woman who attended her local GP surgery after having chest palpitations. She works full time, not wanting to retire just yet. She had been unable to go to work due to the palpitations. During this appointment Irene is prescribed an antidepressant and advised she had been experiencing panic attacks. She has experienced depression and anxiety most of her life and has been on antidepressants before. After a number of months off and no improvement she again attends her GP. She is put on a 24-hour heart monitor which identifies she has extremely high blood pressure which requires treatment and a few lifestyle changes. Irene’s palpitations soon reduce and she is able to return to work, she wishes she had the physical health investigations first, instead of her mental health problems being identified as the cause of the palpitations.

Case study two: Christopher is 53 years old. He was diagnosed with a schizophrenic type illness when he was in his early twenties. He was dabbling with Class A drugs at the time and it is thought that this brought on a psychotic illness, though he's got a family history of psychosis too. As he is getting older, periods of wellness have become more infrequent and he has been plagued by voices for as long as he can remember. The voices are often persecutory in nature and cause him much distress. He has tried numerous types of antipsychotic medication over the years as well as other less conventional treatments. He is currently on Clozapine which he says has kept him more well than anything he's tried before and for the first time in a long time, he says he feels happy with life. However, he still drinks alcohol excessively as he finds it helps with the voices and other troubling thoughts which though quieter are still there. He also tends to neglect himself, because he struggles with a lack of motivation and energy, preferring to stay in bed some days. It's better than it used to be, but he still finds looking after himself a struggle. He's had most of his teeth removed because of decay and he doesn't have any interest in his appearance. He was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes a few years ago but doesn't really pay much attention to this, other than that he knows that he gets really thirsty and has to get up a lot through the night to go to the toilet, which he finds annoying. He lives in supported accommodation and most of the other residents are much older. He says this suits him as it's peaceful and so he keeps himself to himself except for meal times which he spends with the other residents. Last week , he collapsed while out at the local shop. He was rushed into hospital and it transpired that he had had a massive heart attack.

Evidence: High quality physical health care is vitally important for service users with mental health problems. The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) recommends annual physical health checks for people with mental health problems. Evidence shows that people with mental health problems die up to twenty years younger than the population without. Preventable cardiovascular disease is the major cause of death, along with endocrine disease and respiratory failure. Evidence also suggests that people with mental health problems receive a lesser standard of health promotion and physical health care and despite national awareness and guidelines early mortality rates have not improved (taken from- Yorkshire and Humber Academic Health Science Network).

Questions

1) Is physical health care important in mental health care? Why?

2) How have you seen/ experienced physical health care being addressed?

3) Who do you think should be responsible/ best placed to look after physical health care?

4) What role do you think antipsychotics play in physical health problems?

5) What do you think about diagnostic overshadowing- missing/ misdiagnosing physical health problems as mental health problems?

6) What do you think professionals can do to ensure physical health care is addressed?

7) What can be done to improve physical health care in mental health services?

8) Have you seen/ experienced good practice/ projects to support good physical health care?

9) Are there any other important questions?

Useful articles and links

Dale, K. (2015). Achieving parity of esteem. Retrieved from http://www.independentnurse.co.uk/professional-article/achieving-parity-of-esteem/88575/

Department of Health (DOH). (2006b) Choosing health: supporting the physical health needs of people with severe mental illness. commissioning framework.

Naylor, C, Das, P, Ross, S, Honeyman, M, Thompson, J. and Gilburt, H. (2016) Bringing together physical and mental health: a new frontier for integrated care. London: The Kings Fund.

NHS England- Improving the physical health of patients with serious mental illness – a practical toolkit

Royal College of Psychiatrists (RCPsych).(2013b). Whole-person care: from rhetoric to reality. Achieving parity betweenmental and physical health.

RoyalCollege of Psychiatrists (RCPsych). (2013b). Whole-person care: fromrhetoric to reality. Achieving parity between mental and physical health.Occasional paper OP88. Available at: www.rcpsych.ac.uk/usefulresources/publications/collegereports/op/op88.aspx

The Kings Fund. (2016). Bringing together physical and mental health – a new frontier for integrated health.

Tosh G, Clifton A, Mala S, Bachner M. (2010) Physical health care monitoring for people with serious mental illness. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2010, Issue 3. Art. No.: CD008298. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD008298.pub2.

Tosh G, Clifton A.V, Xia J, White M.M. (2014) General physical health advice for people with serious mental illness. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2014, Issue 3. Art. No.: CD008567. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD008567.pub3.

Yeomans, D., Dale, K., & Beedle, K. (2014). Systematic computerised cardiovascular health screening for people with severe mental illness. Psychiatric Bulletin, 38(6), 280-284.

Mind Set resources

http://mindsetqi.net/index/

http://mindsetqi.net/physical-health/case-for-change/national-policy/

http://mindsetqi.net/physical-health/case-studies/physical-health-monitoring/

http://mindsetqi.net/physical-health/case-studies/

Helpful video- https://vimeo.com/112911582

Projects

Improving the Physical Health of those with Serious Mental Illness Project- Yorkshire and Humber Academic Health Science Network

IMPARTS run by Kings College Partners – see @IMPARTSP - this project looks at mental health for those with physical health problems

Thanks

A number of people have been involved in developing this #wemhns chat; Kate Dale @katedalesmi, Val Rhodes, Alexa Drake, Jeni Deighton @jenniferdeight3, Jayne Firestone @amisja and the @wemhnurses team.





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 #WeMHNs transcript

 
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:00
Welcome everyone to the chat #wemhns Say hi and where you're tweeting from??
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:00
@WeMHNurses #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:01
@WeMHNurses hi tweeting from Wolverhampton looking 4wrd 2 2nites chat #wemhns
@KnightonStar
13 March 2017 20:01
@WeMHNurses @WeMHNurses hi I'm a #peersupport worker, will mostly be lurking and learning ?? #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:01
@SherwoodZs hiya nice you're joining us #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:02
First question- 1)Is physical health care important in mental health care? Why? #WeMHNs https://t.co/Dpm7PEYFwt
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:02
@KnightonStar great to have you lurking :) #wemhns
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:02
I'm an #OT in an inpatient #mentalhealth setting. Feel physical health is neglected so following along tonight with interest. #wemhns
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:02
@WeMHNurses #wemhns absolutely SUs with serious mental health issues mortality and morbidity is high
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:03
@JenniferDeight3 yey great just make sure you use the hashtag in your tweets and have fun #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:03
@NWMHgrads wow brilliant great you can join us #WeMHNs
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:03
@WeMHNurses #wemhns becoz shorter life expectancy 5-20yrs less than general population
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:03
RT @davidcoumar: @WeMHNurses #wemhns absolutely SUs with serious mental health issues mortality and morbidity is high
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:04
@LaraQuinn15 thanks for joining us #wemhns
@NWMHgrads
13 March 2017 20:04
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:04
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs hi Val from AHSN physical health project here
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:04
@WeMHNurses 1)definitely We r a whole person so treating separately (as diff concerns) is a disservice to SUs Both impact eachother #wemhns
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:04
@WeMHNurses #wemhns serious mental illness plus medication side effects, life style issues affects physical health adversely
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:05
Yes this has been reported, life expectancy is shorter, we therefore need to focus on this important topic #wemhns https://t.co/HUQWh9NEc2
@Jones23Emma
13 March 2017 20:05
Get over to #wemhns for the chat about #physicalhealth care in #mentalhealth services @WeMHNurses https://t.co/9PqGbVDDfU
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:05
Yep, higher physical ill health among mental health patients. Not to mention common weight gain due to meds. #wemhns https://twitter.com/wemhnurses/status/841378834742095872
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:05
@SherwoodZs exactly! Thank you #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:06
Do others find this too? #wemhns https://t.co/zJaCXiocbf
@PoliceMHFailure
13 March 2017 20:06
RT @LaraQuinn15: Yep, higher physical ill health among mental health patients. Not to mention common weight gain due to meds. #wemhns https…
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:06
@InRhodesLtd hiya Val :) #wemhns
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:06
Whole person. Can't have one without t'other. #wemhns https://t.co/nlIUEm0qRh
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:07
@WeMHNurses #wemhns life span reduced by around 20 years - high priority for us all @InRhodesLtd
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:07
#sideeffects of #medication anyone else experience the same? #wemhns https://t.co/3DlEOPOFQs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:08
2)How have you seen/ experienced physical health care being addressed? #WeMHNs Use #ebp for #evidencebasedpractice
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:08
RT @MrsGracePoole: Whole person. Can't have one without t'other. #wemhns https://t.co/nlIUEm0qRh
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:08
@MrsGracePoole exactly :)! Nice you can join us #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:08
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #wemhns life span reduced by around 20 years - high priority for us all @InRhodesLtd
@OCDTrudy
13 March 2017 20:08
RT @MrsGracePoole: Whole person. Can't have one without t'other. #wemhns https://t.co/nlIUEm0qRh
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:08
@WeMHNurses yes being addressed but long way to go #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:09
@WeMHNurses Yes. Always give eg in training of SU admitted acutepsychotic episode turnsout undx T1 Diabetic once treated no MH issue #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:09
#wemhns how can we improve this https://t.co/p4f9kV74mw
@JuliaTerry123
13 March 2017 20:09
#weMHNs When you consider stats of many mental health service users dying years younger than rest of population, surely a call to action
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:10
@KatedaleSMI article Achieving parity of esteem #wemhns #ebp https://t.co/w7lazvo3RR
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:10
@WeMHNurses are people aware of DIAMONDS? https://t.co/HgzT4OyH7M #wemhns
@livinginhope
13 March 2017 20:10
#WeMHNs good point but maybe more than that assume it's related to mental ill health so don't investigate potential… https://t.co/TANS9Mfemk
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:10
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #wemhns life span reduced by around 20 years - high priority for us all @InRhodesLtd
@livinginhope
13 March 2017 20:10
RT @WeMHNurses: Do others find this too? #wemhns https://t.co/zJaCXiocbf
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:10
RT @JuliaTerry123: #weMHNs When you consider stats of many mental health service users dying years younger than rest of population, surely…
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:10
#wemhns #ebp https://t.co/KgMgIRr0D3
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:10
RT @WeMHNurses: First question- 1)Is physical health care important in mental health care? Why? #WeMHNs https://t.co/Dpm7PEYFwt
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:10
RT @davidcoumar: @WeMHNurses #wemhns becoz shorter life expectancy 5-20yrs less than general population
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:11
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd physical health clinics piloted in @allofusinmind
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:11
Thanks Alison #ebp #wemhns https://twitter.com/mrsgracepoole/status/841380846594609152
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:11
RT @WeMHNurses: Yes this has been reported, life expectancy is shorter, we therefore need to focus on this important topic #wemhns https://…
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:11
@WeMHNurses hello! I'm a nurse (adult, not mh) but also have anorexia so lurking tonight ?? #Wemhns
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:11
@WeMHNurses Yep, I saw myself at Christmas be discharged out of my local area with no shoes and severe Gout to walk 2 miles to bus. #WeMHNs
@rachel_rahs
13 March 2017 20:11
RT @MrsGracePoole: @WeMHNurses are people aware of DIAMONDS? http://www.diamonds.nihr.ac.uk #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:12
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd physical health clinics piloted in @allofusinmind
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:12
RT @WeMHNurses: 2)How have you seen/ experienced physical health care being addressed? #WeMHNs Use #ebp for #evidencebasedpractice
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:12
@WeMHNurses admission blood screen asap. Dedicated CV team. MDT working and support 4 SU #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:12
RT @WeMHNurses: Thanks Alison #ebp #wemhns https://twitter.com/mrsgracepoole/status/841380846594609152
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:12
@MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses And a congenital heart condition and only having a stand up intellectual battle saved me at all. #WeMHNs
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:12
RT @WeMHNurses: @KatedaleSMI article Achieving parity of esteem #wemhns #ebp http://www.independentnurse.co.uk/professional-article/achieving-parity-of-esteem/88575/
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:12
@Justdreamingof thanks we like a lurker ? #WeMHNs
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:12
"Don't just screen - intervene!' #wemhns
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:12
@MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses Because someone realised I was right. And was a right good egg and palmed me a Warfarin script. #WeMHNs
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:13
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd physical health clinics piloted in @allofusinmind
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:13
In my setting: weekly MEWS. #wemhns https://t.co/sRe87nkAAy
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:13
@InRhodesLtd @WeMHNurses @allofusinmind plus our professionals needed to be unskilled to identify physical health issues asap #wemhns
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:13
@MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses Because they knew I was being shafted and at high risk lol. But I live eh. Because I am a bitter shit :) #WeMHNs
@slhattersley
13 March 2017 20:13
#wemhns never felt that my physical health was considered in my MH treatment or often vice versa when seeking treatment for physical issue.
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:14
3)Who do you think should be responsible/ best placed to look after physical health care? Don't forget the hashtag #WeMHNs
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:14
@MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses To be fair, the physical health nurse and junior doctor were excellent. Covered my back. #WeMHNs
@SalmaYasmeen_1
13 March 2017 20:14
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd physical health clinics piloted in @allofusinmind
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:14
@WeMHNurses it's also my main focus at work ( diabetes within MH) #weMHNs
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:14
@MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses The Psych was thick as shit. And said I dont want to hear your story lol. Pure deitrus. #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:15
#DepartmentofHealth Supporting physical health needs of people with mental health problems #WeMHNs #ebp https://t.co/VVPSZ6JmIb
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:15
This is sad, anyone else experienced this? What can be done to improve this? #wemhns https://twitter.com/slhattersley/status/841381778833199105
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:15
@WeMHNurses #wemhns all mental health professionals #medics #nurses #support workers #collective responsibilitu
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:15
@WeMHNurses Nae need to be sorry. Part and parcel when dealing with people that collude wie religion lol. #WeMHNs
@KatedaleSMI
13 March 2017 20:16
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs I believe it's every bodies business both Primary and secondary Care
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:16
@WeMHNurses 3) every1 responsible - can raise concerns/refer 2 specialist staff. #WeMHNs
@JuliaTerry123
13 March 2017 20:16
#weMHNs often lack confidence with physical health skills. more training needed. I like the don't just screen inter… https://t.co/4K8idJrM1E
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:16
@WeMHNurses Yes, as a mental health patient my physical health was only considered by the eating disorder service #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:17
#WeMHNs any specialist clinics anyone has been to? https://t.co/2TeOdK5Jpc
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:17
RT @davidcoumar: @WeMHNurses #wemhns all mental health professionals #medics #nurses #support workers #collective responsibilitu
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:17
RT @KatedaleSMI: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs I believe it's every bodies business both Primary and secondary Care
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:17
@WeMHNurses And my GP seems quick to brush aside any physical concerns I go to her with as being due to my mental illnesses #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:18
@WeMHNurses #wemhns shared care guidance helps clarify who does what when @InRhodesLtd
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:18
#wemhns #ebp https://t.co/djV7mHR994
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:19
@WeMHNurses we started organising drop in sessions 4 community SUs #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:19
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #wemhns shared care guidance helps clarify who does what when @InRhodesLtd
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:19
@WeMHNurses my physical health is always written off as "anxiety" including an SVT sustained at >220 bpm for 4+ hours... #Wemhns
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:19
@SherwoodZs @WeMHNurses referring to primary health care and secondary mental health care #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:19
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:20
#WeMHNs #ebp Yorkshire & Humber network https://t.co/RPbM21ObHL
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:20
Next question everyone 4) What role do you think #antipsychotics play in #physicalhealth problems? #WeMHNs https://t.co/2cfy9ZzJYK
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:20
Excellent work #Wemhns https://twitter.com/sherwoodzs/status/841383110516330496
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:20
An Type 2 Diabetes crisis we dont talk about lol. #wemhns https://t.co/M3n46wbUD9
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:20
RT @SherwoodZs: @WeMHNurses we started organising drop in sessions 4 community SUs #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:20
@SherwoodZs how's it going? #Wemhns
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:21
@WeMHNurses med consult said to med students "people like her (in ref to anorexia) have usually taken diet pills" humiliating ??#Wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:21
RT @MrsGracePoole: #wemhns #ebp https://t.co/djV7mHR994
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:22
RT @WeMHNurses: #WeMHNs #ebp Yorkshire & Humber network https://t.co/RPbM21ObHL
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:22
@WeMHNurses #wemhns do not forget #smoking further increases the risk
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:22
@AlresfordBear I'm not a nurse... is there a link btw antipsychotics and diabetes?? #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:22
@WeMHNurses literally a new venture but organised at community CPN drop in & not GPS 2 aide relaxation & ease anxiety Well received. #WeMHNs
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:23
@WeMHNurses he ignored me, was a delay in attaching monitoring &asking cardio for r/v as he thought the wait would get me to confess #Wemhns
@doricgirl
13 March 2017 20:23
@Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses was told diffuse bilateral pulmonary embolism was anxiety for a week by a number of mh and other profs #wemhns
@PennineCareJobs
13 March 2017 20:23
RT @WeMHNurses: 5 mins to go :) #physicalhealth care for #mentalhealth #serviceusers Very important topic, come and get invovled #WeMHNs
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:24
#WeMHNs #antipsychotics can result in weight gain
@MrsGracePoole
13 March 2017 20:24
Think MH profs need to be very careful about prescribing. The risks of taking life limiting medication may outweigh the benefits. #wemhns
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:25
@doricgirl @WeMHNurses this was 5th admission in 3 years and never investigated as usually resolved so written off as anorexia #Wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:25
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs over shadowing - when MH is used to explain physical symptoms
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:26
5)What do you think about diagnostic overshadowing- missing/ misdiagnosing physical health problems as mental health problems? #WeMHNs
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:27
RT @MrsGracePoole: Whole person. Can't have one without t'other. #wemhns https://t.co/nlIUEm0qRh
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:27
@WeMHNurses even as a specialist nurse in the hospital I felt vulnerable to his attitude, so what hope for other mh patients? #Wemhns
@doricgirl
13 March 2017 20:28
@Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses in my experience diagnostic overshadowing of serious physical issues is v common in mh #wemhns
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:28
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs over shadowing - when MH is used to explain physical symptoms
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:28
Make sure you use #wemhns so everyone can see your comments ??
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:28
RT @doricgirl: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses in my experience diagnostic overshadowing of serious physical issues is v common in mh #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:29
RT @doricgirl: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses in my experience diagnostic overshadowing of serious physical issues is v common in mh #wemhns
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:29
RT @doricgirl: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses in my experience diagnostic overshadowing of serious physical issues is v common in mh #wemhns
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:29
@doricgirl @WeMHNurses @Justdreamingof so sorry #wemhns
@doricgirl
13 March 2017 20:29
@Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses < and wouldn't expedite calling on call dr when he said he felt hypo coming on #wemhns
@NWMHgrads
13 March 2017 20:29
#WeMHNs anti psychotics not the only medication that causes weight gain
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:30
#WeMHNs #ebp #KingsFund file:///L:/AHSN%20PH%20work%20Oct-jan16/Physical%20Health%20reports/Bringing-together-Kings-Fund-March-2016.pdf
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:30
Definitely #wemhns https://twitter.com/katedalesmi/status/841385860415279107
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:30
@LaraQuinn15 I am not a nurse. But I am gifted. And I think there is a potential correlation which is underpinned by certain types. #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:30
@WeMHNurses Can lengthen QT intervals leading to cardiac issues; also can make people more vulnerable to type 2 Diabetes #wemhns
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:30
RT @WeMHNurses: #WeMHNs #ebp #KingsFund file:///L:/AHSN%20PH%20work%20Oct-jan16/Physical%20Health%20reports/Bringing-together-Kings-Fund-M…
@doricgirl
13 March 2017 20:30
@davidcoumar @WeMHNurses @Justdreamingof thank you but don't need apologies need better training knowledge and disciplinary action #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:31
RT @WeMHNurses: Next question everyone 4) What role do you think #antipsychotics play in #physicalhealth problems? #WeMHNs https://t.co/2…
@AlresfordBear
13 March 2017 20:31
@SherwoodZs @MrsGracePoole @WeMHNurses It isnae awful. They need calibrating* lol. #wemhns *= sacked to fook
@JenniferDeight3
13 March 2017 20:31
#wemhns recommend reading for all my students https://t.co/8HPJRSQOyi
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:32
Ready for the next question- 6) What do you think professionals can do to ensure #physicalhealth care is addressed? Don't forget #WeMHNs
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:32
RT @doricgirl: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses in my experience diagnostic overshadowing of serious physical issues is v common in mh #wemhns
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:32
@doricgirl @WeMHNurses so dangerous and with potiential for significant long term damage with uncontrolled diabetes #Wemhns
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:32
RT @WeMHNurses: Definitely #wemhns https://t.co/WTdgC61Lkv
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:32
#WeMHNs a frequent issue is physical health not covered by MH Act re covert/restraint administration.Diff opinions freq encountered #wemhns
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:33
In a paper with @JoBardi we discuss this https://t.co/RmMsRYXxRY #WeMHNs https://t.co/vdXv7qdwyc
@NWMHgrads
13 March 2017 20:33
#WeMHNs our service has employed exercise physiologist & dietician to assist with programs
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:33
@WeMHNurses Lots can be done at an individual clinical level through to how we commission services #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:34
#wemhns #ebp fab thanks Val https://t.co/ro21iVj2NO
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:34
@WeMHNurses I was lucky, friend was dr in ward &called cardio who blasted ward for delay. SVT diagnosis, cardioverted &now medicated #Wemhns
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:34
RT @WeMHNurses: #wemhns #ebp fab thanks Val https://twitter.com/InRhodesLtd/status/841386682150731778
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:34
great to hear, is the feedback good? #wemhns https://twitter.com/NWMHgrads/status/841386677100666880
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:34
@WeMHNurses I'm an adult nurse #WeMHNs I wonder how many MHN feel equipped to assess physical health
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:34
@WeMHNurses #wemhns definitely training needs #physical and mental health training #inter-dependant
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:35
#MindSet resources See the prechat blog for resources and articles #ebp #WeMHNs https://t.co/EC9fVtOhDk
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:35
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:35
@WeMHNurses The biggest thing is education.MentalHealth is everyone's business. Health care needs to look at the whole person always #wemhns
@Jones23Emma
13 March 2017 20:35
Come join in #WeMHNs @WeMHNurses https://t.co/YYOAVmTLYQ
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:35
I question ethics of prescribing meds which cause weight gain in inpatient settings where motivation is low & S17 leave restricted #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:35
RT @CalvinMoorley: @WeMHNurses I'm an adult nurse #WeMHNs I wonder how many MHN feel equipped to assess physical health
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:36
RT @Jones23Emma: Come join in #WeMHNs @WeMHNurses https://t.co/YYOAVmTLYQ
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:36
@JenniferDeight3 #wemhns don't forget the hashtag ?
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:36
RT @CalvinMoorley: @WeMHNurses I'm an adult nurse #WeMHNs I wonder how many MHN feel equipped to assess physical health
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:36
@InRhodesLtd need an s on the end lol #wemhns ?
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:37
RT @WeMHNurses: #MindSet resources See the prechat blog for resources and articles #ebp #WeMHNs https://t.co/EC9fVtOhDk
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:37
RT @WeMHNurses: #MindSet resources See the prechat blog for resources and articles #ebp #WeMHNs https://t.co/EC9fVtOhDk
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:37
@CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses I agree with you . I think there is definitely a significant gap re knowledge /skills #wemhns
@ViralKMH
13 March 2017 20:37
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:37
Good question #wemhns what does everyone think https://t.co/z9nSEe1Wcg
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:38
#WeMHNs 7) What can be done to improve physical health care in #mentalhealth services? https://t.co/2cfy9Zi97c
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:39
@davidcoumar @CalvinMoorley don't forget the hashtag #weMHNs then everyone can see your helpful comments ?
@TV_HIEC_Chair
13 March 2017 20:39
RT @WeMHNurses: #wemhns #ebp fab thanks Val https://twitter.com/InRhodesLtd/status/841386682150731778
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:39
@WeMHNurses #wemhns clear physical health strategy , commissioning primary health services, addressing training needs,
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:39
@KatedaleSMI how can we increase people's skills? #WeMHNs
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:39
@LaraQuinn15 Access to exercise & healthy food options also important especially when people are restricted by the mental health act #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:39
RT @davidcoumar: @WeMHNurses #wemhns clear physical health strategy , commissioning primary health services, addressing training needs,
@JenniferDeight3
13 March 2017 20:40
#WeMHNs good point. Skills need to be developed and utilised so we are confident in our assessments https://twitter.com/calvinmoorley/status/841387032811315201
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:40
@WeMHNurses #wemhns undergraduate training fit for purpose to meet the changing needs of population
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:40
RT @WeMHNurses: #WeMHNs 7) What can be done to improve physical health care in #mentalhealth services? https://t.co/2cfy9Zi97c
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:40
@WeMHNurses #wemhns @AHSN_YandH commissioned an elearning module link on website
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:40
@WeMHNurses consider health as a whole, without a divide between mental & physical so people feel able to discuss all aspects #Wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:40
@davidcoumar @CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses having been witness 2 both there appears 2b equal fear #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:41
Excellent point!! #wemhns thank you ?? https://t.co/mNpTk7LmRJ
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:41
@SherwoodZs @CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses #wemhns true
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:42
RT @WeMHNurses: Excellent point!! #wemhns thank you ?? https://t.co/mNpTk7LmRJ
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:42
#WeMHNs #education https://twitter.com/katedalesmi/status/841388784222666752
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:42
@WeMHNurses what's others experiences? #WeMHNs https://t.co/RIFAa98XGB
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:42
This would be very helpful!! #WeMHNs https://t.co/qgCTW3qlZa
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:42
RT @SherwoodZs: @WeMHNurses what's others experiences? #WeMHNs https://t.co/RIFAa98XGB
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:42
@Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses #wemhns knowledge skills competencies in both physical and mental health without loosing the main identity
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:43
#WeMHNs https://t.co/u16MLbGOt0
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:43
RT @davidcoumar: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses #wemhns knowledge skills competencies in both physical and mental health without loosing the m…
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:43
@KatedaleSMI @WeMHNurses not just education. It's skills and competencies #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:44
8) Have you seen/ experienced good practice/ projects to support good physical health care? #WeMHNs
@KatedaleSMI
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @davidcoumar: @Justdreamingof @WeMHNurses #wemhns knowledge skills competencies in both physical and mental health without loosing the m…
@jacquidellis
13 March 2017 20:44
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs when l trained first rule was eliminate physical Heath cause of symptoms
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:44
#wemhns @WeMHNurses link to free learning - primary care staff implementing PH review template https://t.co/7GkiqL2UI2
@_lucyxlocket
13 March 2017 20:44
#WeMHNs side effects of olanzapine and quatiapine unbearable
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @WeMHNurses: @KatedaleSMI how can we increase people's skills? #WeMHNs
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @InRhodesLtd: @WeMHNurses #wemhns @AHSN_YandH commissioned an elearning module link on website
@lethem29
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @WeMHNurses: #WeMHNs #education https://t.co/RKhslAufUy
@livinginhope
13 March 2017 20:44
RT @JenniferDeight3: #WeMHNs good point. Skills need to be developed and utilised so we are confident in our assessments https://t.co/1J9vX…
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:44
@WeMHNurses yes having an associate specialist with GP experience/ qualification in mental health settings #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:45
#WeMHNs #ebp #NHSEngland @NHSEngland Improving #physicalhealth for #mentalhealth #serviceusers https://t.co/JYXMnvFNNl
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:45
RT @jacquidellis: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs when l trained first rule was eliminate physical Heath cause of symptoms
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:45
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @WeMHNurses link to free learning - primary care staff implementing PH review template https://yhahsn.vc-enable.co.uk/Login/Login?ReturnUrl=%2f
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:45
@WeMHNurses would like dual qualified nurses in mental health settings #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:45
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @WeMHNurses link to free learning - primary care staff implementing PH review template https://yhahsn.vc-enable.co.uk/Login/Login?ReturnUrl=%2f
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:45
#wemhns Good point https://t.co/cIub9vdiSD
@jacquidellis
13 March 2017 20:45
@WeMHNurses #WeMHNs we assess physical health on admission ,weekly. Community have clinics
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:45
@WeMHNurses clear leadership and outcome based accountable framework in mental health system #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:45
#wemhns https://t.co/5PMNLc21R4
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:46
#wemhns @allofusinmind running pilot physical health clinics great results https://t.co/GKX3MgUr98
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:46
RT @jacquidellis: @WeMHNurses #WeMHNs we assess physical health on admission ,weekly. Community have clinics
@mynuradin
13 March 2017 20:46
Yes, working in PICU, a day dedicated for physical health checks #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:46
@WeMHNurses physical health team with MH setting;Tissue viability, diabetes, ecg, dietetics....#wemhns
@livinginhope
13 March 2017 20:47
RT @WeMHNurses: Excellent point!! #wemhns thank you ?? https://t.co/mNpTk7LmRJ
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:47
@davidcoumar @WeMHNurses Yes & dual qualified nurses in physical health settings or with a solid foundation re mentalhealth at least #wemhns
@SalmaYasmeen_1
13 March 2017 20:47
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @allofusinmind running pilot physical health clinics great results https://t.co/GKX3MgUr98
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:47
@WeMHNurses partnership working with primary care professionals, cross fertilisation of skills #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:47
#WeMHNs @BDCFT run #physical health clinics in all CMHTs
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:47
@davidcoumar #WeMHNs I think we are becoming better we use tools to assess delirium and assess overall MH status and able to refer
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:48
@InRhodesLtd @allofusinmind Can you tell us more about what they are doing? #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:48
RT @SherwoodZs: @WeMHNurses physical health team with MH setting;Tissue viability, diabetes, ecg, dietetics....#wemhns
@KatedaleSMI
13 March 2017 20:49
RT @WeMHNurses: This would be very helpful!! #WeMHNs https://t.co/qgCTW3qlZa
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:49
#WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd @KatedaleSMI we find interoperability issues challenging when sharing data between primary& secondary care
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:49
#WeMHNs This starts with pre registration curriculum as well as skills update https://twitter.com/jenniferdeight3/status/841388416088604672
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:49
@CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses yes we are getting better but still long way to go #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:49
@_lucyxlocket @LeTempsViendra_ @LaraQuinn15 That's good #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:49
#wemhns https://t.co/cAQMJAzjzH
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:50
See @IMPARTSP Kings College Partners - this project looks at mental health for those with physical health problems #WeMHNs #ebp
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:50
9) Are there any other important questions to ask? #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:50
RT @CalvinMoorley: #WeMHNs This starts with pre registration curriculum as well as skills update https://t.co/SGujLfyeVS
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:50
#wemhns https://t.co/HCfeQQKv9l
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:50
@CalvinMoorley @davidcoumar This is good to hear #wemhns
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:51
Good to hear positive stories tonight about where things are working well #wemhns https://t.co/kAXYvP5K7O
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:51
@davidcoumar @WeMHNurses #wemhns It's about removing stigma and compartmentalising practice
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:51
@LaraQuinn15 we still strive 4 better but it is an excellent team set up #wemhns
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:51
#wemhns @allofusinmind piloted the Bradford model in one site with a view to roll out https://t.co/qU7FWJu6gb
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:52
RT @WeMHNurses: @CalvinMoorley @davidcoumar This is good to hear #wemhns
@Jones23Emma
13 March 2017 20:52
#wemhns @WeMHNurses chat 10 mins left
@UCLanMH
13 March 2017 20:52
#wemhns @WeMHNurses chat 10 mins left
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:52
@CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses absolutely. Work is ongoing but v shd be careful not to loose the identity #whole person centred approach #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:52
@WeMHNurses no answer 2 my physical health meds covert/restraint in MH? Interested as came across differing opinions #WeMHNs
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:52
@LeTempsViendra_ @_lucyxlocket @LaraQuinn15 @VanessaLGarrity thanks for sharing this is nice to hear #wemhns
@Justdreamingof
13 March 2017 20:52
@CalvinMoorley @WeMHNurses I think works both ways &need to less divisive in our roles & welcome overlap in mental & physical health #Wemhns
@CalvinMoorley
13 March 2017 20:52
@jacquidellis @WeMHNurses #wemhns #classofone
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:53
#weMHNs anyone sorted the IT issues out so we can share records with primary care? https://t.co/j9WCHyl8sJ
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:53
#wemhns #nhs https://twitter.com/letempsviendra_/status/841391416479764483
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:53
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @allofusinmind piloted the Bradford model in one site with a view to roll out https://twitter.com/vanessalgarrity/status/841390411981717504
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:53
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @allofusinmind running pilot physical health clinics great results https://twitter.com/wemhnurses/status/841389402794287104
@NWMHgrads
13 March 2017 20:53
#WeMHNs need to look at health literacy, self management and self efficacy 4 long term.
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:54
RT @InRhodesLtd: #WeMHNs @InRhodesLtd @KatedaleSMI we find interoperability issues challenging when sharing data between primary& secondary…
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:54
#WeMHNs need to work closely with primary care colleagues to avoid duplication/gaps
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:54
RT @InRhodesLtd: #weMHNs anyone sorted the IT issues out so we can share records with primary care? https://t.co/j9WCHyl8sJ
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:55
Last 5 minutes Anything else that is important to say or ask?? Anyone read or seen any good articles, research, blogs etc.? #ebp #WeMHNs
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:55
Regardless of role in MDT we can all encourage patients to consider the pros & cons of current habits v healthier, active lifestyle #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:55
@InRhodesLtd we have Rio patient notes electronic system & EPMA electronic prescriptions can link 2 sum not all of local GP scripts. #wemhns
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:55
RT @InRhodesLtd: #WeMHNs need to work closely with primary care colleagues to avoid duplication/gaps
@Benandsebastian
13 March 2017 20:55
#wemhns CAMHS inpatient 2x per week we ask the YP to go into the com'ty and get the ingredients for a healthy lunch cook and eat together!
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:55
RT @VanessaLGarrity: Good to hear positive stories tonight about where things are working well #wemhns https://twitter.com/letempsviendra_/status/841390719013142528
@Veritihealth
13 March 2017 20:55
RT @AHSN_YandH: We're supporting the roll out of Bradford Health Template Improving the #physicalhealth of people with SMI #weMHNs https://…
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:56
RT @InRhodesLtd: #wemhns @allofusinmind piloted the Bradford model in one site with a view to roll out https://t.co/qU7FWJu6gb
@AllanSparkes
13 March 2017 20:56
RT @NWMHgrads: #WeMHNs our service has employed exercise physiologist & dietician to assist with programs
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:56
RT @InRhodesLtd: #weMHNs anyone sorted the IT issues out so we can share records with primary care? https://twitter.com/wemhnurses/status/841390917709910017
@HealthInnovYH
13 March 2017 20:56
RT @InRhodesLtd: #WeMHNs need to work closely with primary care colleagues to avoid duplication/gaps
@NWMHgrads
13 March 2017 20:56
#WeMHNs Recovery is the goal of all treatment.
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:56
@davidcoumar @WeMHNurses best interests discussions when lacking capacity a frequent discussion #WeMHNs
@Benandsebastian
13 March 2017 20:57
#wemhns also starting a recovery library which will have loads of useful books some of which are about health and well being #camhs
@VanessaRNMH
13 March 2017 20:57
@LeTempsViendra_ @WeMHNurses @_lucyxlocket @LaraQuinn15 Agree :) #wemhns
@UCLanHealth
13 March 2017 20:57
#wemhns blog with resources and article links http://www.wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-details/2928
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:57
RT @Benandsebastian: #wemhns also starting a recovery library which will have loads of useful books some of which are about health and well…
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:58
@SherwoodZs can you share electronic records yet? #wemhns
@gpconsortia
13 March 2017 20:58
RT @VanessaLGarrity: #wemhns #nhs https://twitter.com/letempsviendra_/status/841391416479764483
@trewvs
13 March 2017 20:58
@WeMHNurses Less focus on narrow idea of 'promoting independence' more focus on actually helping ppl get to physical health apptmnts #wemhns
@JuliaTerry123
13 March 2017 20:58
#weMHNs @JacquieWhite7 research on Physical health improvement tool, many nurses using this in UK
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:58
@Benandsebastian @bsmhft have recovery college v popular #WeMHNs
@jacquidellis
13 March 2017 20:58
@WeMHNurses #wemhns RAMMPS programme yorksandhumber area. WHIZ project @NAViGOCARE
@WeMHNurses
13 March 2017 20:59
Thank you so much everyone Great chat! #WeMHNs Thanks to @katedalesmi @JenniferDeight3 @Amisja @InRhodesLtd & Alexa Drake Have a fab week!
@JenniferDeight3
13 March 2017 20:59
RT @WeMHNurses: Thank you so much everyone Great chat! #WeMHNs Thanks to @katedalesmi @JenniferDeight3 @Amisja @InRhodesLtd & Alexa Drake…
@InRhodesLtd
13 March 2017 20:59
RT @jacquidellis: @WeMHNurses #wemhns RAMMPS programme yorksandhumber area. WHIZ project @NAViGOCARE
@davidcoumar
13 March 2017 20:59
@WeMHNurses @KatedaleSMI @JenniferDeight3 @Amisja @InRhodesLtd thank you #wemhns
@SherwoodZs
13 March 2017 20:59
@InRhodesLtd we can view them. So multi site viewing. #WeMHNs
@UCLanHealth
13 March 2017 20:59
#WeMHNs articles and resources https://t.co/NITsuNKx0a
@LaraQuinn15
13 March 2017 20:59
Thanks for letting me chip in. An area that needs much work - I do feel we do mental health patients a physical health disservice ?? #wemhns




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