#WePH - Thursday 3rd November 2016 8pm (GMT Standard Time) Medicines adherence and apps

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This chat is guest hosted by @kmmurray97


Hello my name is Kathryn Murray (@kmmurray97)and I am Stroke and Clinical Trials Pharmacist at Cardiff and Vale University Health Board, and I will be hosting this chat around the use of apps to support patient adherence to medicines. The purpose of this discussion is to find out:

  1. How pharmacists assess patient adherence to medication
  2. How pharmacists help patients increase adherence to medication
  3. Whether any pharmacists are already recommending apps to their patients
  4. The potential role of smartphone technology and social media in improving patients adherence to medication
  5. How can we help patients leverage technology and what can healthcare providers do to support empowering and engaging patients?


I first became interested in the use of mobile phones to aid adherence with medication in 2003 while I was working as a Clinical Pharmacy Lecturer at the University of Otago, New Zealand. I was planning a PhD project that aimed to investigate whether a pharmacist could improve outcomes in patients with cardiovascular disease by providing information about prescribed medication, diet, exercise and smoking cessation.

While preparing my PhD proposal I came across research being performed by Dr David Green in South Africa. Dr Green introduced system where selected patients with tuberculosis (TB) were sent short messaging service (SMS) messages on a daily basis reminding to take their medication.

It is hard to believe now but at that stage the majority of mobile phones could only be used for calling and for SMS messages. When I became aware of his work Dr Green had recruited over 300 patients with TB from deprived areas of Cape Town in a pilot study. Instead of attending daily directly observed treatment (DOT) clinics the patients were sent a daily SMS to remind to take their medication. Amazingly 71% patients attending Dr Green's DOT clinics in Cape Town had mobile phones and the intervention only cost R11.80 (less than £1) per patient per month. There were only 5 treatment failures in the pilot population. (1,2)

 

Around the same time researchers at the University of Auckland were developing the Stop Smoking with Mobile Phones Trial (STOMP) which aimed to investigate whether a package of mobile phone based support could improve smoking cessation rates at 6 weeks (3).

I decided to include the best bits of the STOMP trial and Dr Green's work in South Africa in my PhD project proposal. I rather cheekily approached Dr Green to see if I could adapt his system and he agreed to act as a collaborator in my PhD. In 2004 I became the 1st pharmacist to be awarded a New Zealand National Heart Foundation Small Project Grant. Unfortunately life intervened and I returned to the UK in 2005 without performing my PhD project.

 

Fast forward 11 years to 2016 and I am working as Stroke Pharmacist at the University Hospital of Wales. As I have limited time available to cover the acute stroke unit I spend most of my time on the ward ensuring that medicines reconciliation is performed within 24 hrs, the patients are prescribed recommended stroke treatments and patients with a nasogastric tube receive appropriate formulations of medicines. Although I try to provide patients with some information when they are started on new medication I do not do this consistently and I rarely have time to provide counselling on discharge.

When new patients are able to speak to me after their stroke only a small minority are engaged enough with their pre-admission treatment to be able to tell me exactly what medication they take at home. The standard response from married men is that 'the wife sorts out the tablets' and they have no idea what they take. What I find even more worrying is the increasing number of patients in their 40s and 50s admitted with a disabling stroke who had recently suffered from a transient iscahemic attack (TIA) and had not taken any of the medication they had been prescribed for secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease. As the risk of a vascular event may be as high as 25% within three months of a small stroke or TIA it is important that patients who have totally recovered normal function after their 1st vascular event are engaged with the treatment they are prescribed (4).

The challenge is how to engage this patient population and increase their adherence with medication.

 

Two major systematic reviews of adherence support programs (5,6) found that the interventions used in randomised controlled trials varied greatly. Although medication adherence was an outcome measure in the majority of trials, the methods used to measure adherence were not consistent between the trials. In addition, not all trials included changes in clinical outcome (e.g. blood pressure, lipid values or resource utilisation)as an outcome measure.

Although these reviews have shown that pharmacist led interventions can improve patient adherence to prescribed medication and may improve clinical outcomes, the interventions used are time consuming and are unlikely to be transferable into routine clinical practice.

 

During the summer I was prescribed medication that only needed applying twice a week. To help me remember to use it I decided to see if there was a mobile phone application (app) that I could use to remind me when I needed to apply the patch. I tried a number of apps but the one I found easiest to set up and use was the Smart Patient 'MyTherapy' app. Since starting to use the 'MyTherapy' app 2 months ago I know that I have taken 93% of all my prescribed medication (I do not always remember to take my evening dose of Symbicort).

Mobile phone technology has developed a huge amount in the last decade and the vast majority of the patients I see have a smartphone that they can use to access apps and social media. I believe that apps could revolutionise how patients engage with the medication they take and can be used by healthcare professionals to monitor adherence to treatment. In addition I think there is also a role for pharmacist led support groups on social media to provide patients with more support and information about their medication.

The purpose of this discussion is to find out:

  1. How pharmacists assess patient adherence to medication
  2. How pharmacists help patients increase adherence to medication
  3. Whether any pharmacists are already recommending apps to their patients
  4. The potential role of smartphone technology and social media in improving patients adherence to medication
  5. How can we help patients leverage technology and what can healthcare providers do to support empowering and engaging patients?

 

I am very pleased that Linda Liang from SmartPatient, the company behind MyTherapy, has agreed to join me in the discussion to add the technical bits that I do not understand.

MyTherapy – a support tool forempowering the patient

With mobile phones improving at an exceptional rate and more and more people from all age groups and social backgrounds using them these days, the healthcare system has plenty of room and possibilities to catch on as we move towards a digital world. Medical apps for health tracking and education have great potential in helping people manage their medications, log their progresses and keep a personalised record of their health. Apps are not only useful for the individual and their health, but also healthcare professionals who can leverage these tools for patient care and education. With over 165,000 medical apps these days and more to come, mobile apps appear to be an innovative outlet for improving so-called adherence and empowering patients. The questions that will become more relevant are how to determine which apps are reliable, “trustworthy” and how we can help patients empower themselves.





References

1. South Africa: a novel approach to improving adherence to TB treatment. In WHO Essential Drugs Monitor No 033 (2003) http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/en/d/Js4941e/3.2.html(accessed 24/10/16)

2. Text Messages Prove a lifesaver BBC News website 29/1/2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2698533.stm(accessed 24/10/16)

3. STOMP. Stop Smoking with Mobile Phones Trial https://datasets.nihi.auckland.ac.nz/page/completed-research/stomp-stop-smoking-mobile-phones-trialaccessed 24/10/16

4. Royal College of Physicians National Clinical Guideline for Stroke 5th Edition 2016 http://strokeaudit.org/Guideline/Full-Guideline.aspxaccessed 24/10/16

5. Interventions for enhancing medication adherence. Nieuwlaat R et al. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2014.Issue 11 Art No CD000011 DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD000011.pub4

6. Delivery of patient adherence support:a systematic review of the role of pharmacists and doctors. Anderson M et alPatient Intelligence 2014:6;31-42 DOI https://dx.doi.org/10.2147/PI.S46647(accessed 24/10/16)








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@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:00
Good evening & welcome to our #WePh chat on meds adherence & apps with @kmmurray97 Say hi if you're out there ple… https://t.co/6xVxg4F5yo
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:01
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03 November 2016 20:01
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@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:01
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@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:01
RT @WePharmacists: And before we hand over to tonight's host @kmmurray97, here's a handy reminder... #WePh https://t.co/dHgSrx4snS
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:02
Hi! James here, with many hats on. Particularly want to know whether we must wait for evidence before recommending apps... #WePh
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:02
Hi all, signing in from Munich and excited to be part of the #WePh chat!
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:02
Useful reminder, thanks Emily! #Weph https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794268229845843968
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:03
Really pleased you can join us tonight - your experience will be really insightful #WePh https://t.co/jzXskwE94o
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:03
@linda__liang Thanks for joining me in the #WePh chat
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:04
RT @WePharmacists: Useful reminder, thanks Emily! #Weph https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794268229845843968
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:04
@aptaim yes!! it's important to have assessments as there's over some 160,000 apps for #health #medical! #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:04
@linda__liang interesting - so does that mean there's an assessment framework out there for evidencing apps? #wePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:06
RT @linda__liang: @aptaim yes!! it's important to have assessments as there's over some 160,000 apps for #health #medical! #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:06
Reminder that our apps & meds adherence #wePh chat has just started - come join us if you can! @Anniecoops @VictoriaBetton @DigitalPhamcist
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:06
#weph have we missed it or have you just started today's chat?
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:07
RT @WePharmacists: Will digital solutions for medicines adherence leave some patients disadvantaged? #WePh chat; *TONIGHT!* 8pm: https://…
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:07
.@MedicineGov We've just started - & about to hand over to host @kmmurray97 - glad you can make it! #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:07
@MedicineGov Just started :) #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:07
Come on Ross - you should know better... ;) - >>> #wePh https://t.co/JFkoZkdYAO
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:07
@WePharmacists @KidDoseapp argggh #WePh naughty step
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:07
another sign-in from Munich - good evening everybody #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:07
Perfect #WePh @WePharmacists @kmmurray97
@JoseCPPE
03 November 2016 20:08
RT @mwbstyles: @WePharmacists @cppeengland @kdcm87 if patients feel it's urgent then it is and they will take action to be seen #weph #urge…
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:08
Great! Thanks for joining us! #WePh https://twitter.com/SebastianGaede/status/794269848922685442
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:08
@aptaim @linda__liang If ound this while I was looking around #WePh https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/medical-devices-software-applications-apps
@CMHPCommunity
03 November 2016 20:08
RT @WePharmacists: Reminder that our apps & meds adherence #wePh chat has just started - come join us if you can! @Anniecoops @VictoriaBet…
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:08
@aptaim as far as I'm aware, yes & no there are orgs e.g. #ORCHA & Public Health England that are working on it! But no regulations #WePh
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:08
From our experience apps need to live up to the same kind of assessment as other healthcare innovation: clinical studies #WePh
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:08
@WePharmacists @KidDoseapp as soon as I sent it I knew #WePh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:08
RT @linda__liang: @aptaim yes!! it's important to have assessments as there's over some 160,000 apps for #health #medical! #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:08
Evening everyone @nusratmedicine here for @MedicineGov #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:08
Without further ado let us hand over to guest host @kmmurray97 for tonight's chat questions! All yours Kathryn! #WePh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:09
@aptaim struggling to think of a reason why we shouldn't be evidence based in this area. #weph
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:09
.@L1ttlepetal Oh no! We can't RT you as your account is protected, sorry! *but great point!* #WePh
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:10
@WePharmacist thanks for the introduction .This is the 1st chat I have led so please bear with me #WePh
@CMHPCommunity
03 November 2016 20:10
RT @WePharmacists: Without further ado let us hand over to guest host @kmmurray97 for tonight's chat questions! All yours Kathryn! #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:10
@aptaim @linda__liang I thought it would have included apps but seems not but I've seen something somewhere *aaggh*! #WePh
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:10
I don't do as much as I should in helping patients adhere to medication and would like to know what other pharmacists do #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:10
RT @kmmurray97: @WePharmacist thanks for the introduction .This is the 1st chat I have led so please bear with me #WePh
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:11
Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:12
RT @kmmurray97: Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:12
.@pabakz I don't disagree in general *but* tech is moving much faster than we can test evidence: think big, fail fast?? #wePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:12
RT @EmilyBeardall1: @aptaim @linda__liang If ound this while I was looking around #WePh https://t.co/r4ffmtHDf1
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:12
Is this what you are talking about @EmilyBeardall1 #WePh first medtech devices &apps to join fast track payment… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794271164474523652
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:13
RT @aptaim: .@pabakz I don't disagree in general *but* tech is moving much faster than we can test evidence: think big, fail fast?? #wePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:13
Hurry up people... ;) #WePh https://t.co/lAiHNmrM4O
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:13
RT @kmmurray97: Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:13
RT @kmmurray97: Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:13
RT @MedicineGov: Is this what you are talking about @EmilyBeardall1 #WePh first medtech devices &apps to join fast track payment https://…
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:13
@MedicineGov Yes that's the very thing, thanks! #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:14
#NHSEngland announces first medtech devices &apps fast track payment scheme for innovation https://www.england.nhs.uk/2016/11/innov-tech-tariff/ @aptaim @pabakz #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:14
RT @WePharmacists: Hurry up people... ;) #WePh https://twitter.com/HPILLminster/status/794270852070199296
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:14
@kmmurray97 ideally as part of an MUR or CMS or in general conversation. Shouldn't be an inquisition tho #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:15
Hot off the press today, we tweeted about it earlier #WePh @EmilyBeardall1 https://t.co/SbaO8sqikV
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:15
A1: Assessment is predominantly through asking: but even things like domiciliary tablet counts etc aren't accurate... #WePh @kmmurray97
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:15
RT @rosshferguson: @kmmurray97 ideally as part of an MUR or CMS or in general conversation. Shouldn't be an inquisition tho #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:15
RT @rosshferguson: @kmmurray97 ideally as part of an MUR or CMS or in general conversation. Shouldn't be an inquisition tho #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:15
@kmmurray97 one thing we know is that health care professionals guesses of individual adherence aren't accurate #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:16
Have you use apps for reminding you to take/order meds? Any good? What do you like/dislike about them? Join in now until 9pm, using #weph
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:16
@kmmurray97 have shown differences between self-report, HCP guess, prescription fill and smart neb data before #WePh
@AJNadabo
03 November 2016 20:16
RT @kmmurray97: Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:16
Interesting: in what situations would we want /need to guess this - & why not use patient reports? #WePh https://twitter.com/patrickiwilson/status/794271850608132111
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:17
@aptaim @pabakz agreed! Seems to be in NHS's 5 yr fwd plan http://bit.ly/1IvuwY5 but seems to try to catchup with the real world #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:17
@WePharmacists don't you think we make these guesses all the time? #WePh consciously or not?
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:17
@WePharmacists hello everyone Helen GP Pharm, comm/hospital/GP fed background. #WePh ??
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:18
@MedicineGov yes absolutely - and self reported adherence to different HCPs can vary! seen it #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:19
fair #WePh? what barriers to having conversation with patients about it? https://twitter.com/patrickiwilson/status/794272369804242948
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:19
@patrickiwilson @kmmurray97 smart neb data? Tell me more #weph
@L1ttlepetal
03 November 2016 20:19
#weph in community we rely mostly on checking patients understanding, medication, concordance, liaising with carers.
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:19
@MaryCEvans1 @aptaim @kmmurray97 only if bioavailability doesn't vary... #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:19
#weph even ?? https://t.co/lSyKLwQD5P
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:19
RT @patrickiwilson: @kmmurray97 have shown differences between self-report, HCP guess, prescription fill and smart neb data before #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:20
.@HPILLminster Great to have you join us (trust the kids are asleep?!) #wePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:20
RT @L1ttlepetal: #weph in community we rely mostly on checking patients understanding, medication, concordance, liaising with carers.
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:20
#WePh https://t.co/GVz3lJIHoh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:20
@MaryCEvans1 curse this iPad spell check! #weph
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:21
RT @MaryCEvans1: #weph even ?? https://twitter.com/marycevans1/status/794272530009882631
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:21
RT @WePharmacists: Great point - do we reassure patients that assessing adherence is not about judgement but shared decision making? #wePh…
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:21
In the interested of time I will move onto question 2: How can (or already do) pharmacists help patients increase medication adherence #WePh
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:21
from your experience, is it really about the exact level of adherence? Or rather about understanding if/where a patient struggles? #weph
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:21
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 so mainly available in CF #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:22
*great question* thoughts #wePh? https://twitter.com/SebastianGaede/status/794273321005289473
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:22
@MedicineGov -interesting, as some apps have introduced motivational elements to encourage better self-reporting but can be biased #WePh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:22
@QHadid @kmmurray97 @WePharmacists if I had a pound for every time a man said "my wife looks after my tablets!" #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:22
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 gah Eflows (autocorrrect) #weph
@ejmille1
03 November 2016 20:22
Is there an app that can be shared so that a family carer knows when their relative has taken their meds #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:22
@patrickiwilson @kmmurray97 is it widely used? Useful at increasing adherence? Can pt download their own data? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:24
Interesting thought - bit like @pabakz & his spouse point Any ideas? #wePh https://twitter.com/ejmille1/status/794273677382713349
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:24
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 Used in some CF clinics usually selectively. Never seen it demonstrated to improve outcomes @thecfphysio? #weph
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:24
@kmmurray97 @WePharmacists talking to patients, but that takes time that we often don't have enough of. #WePh
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:24
@ejmille1 #WePh yes! The app i'm working on #MyTherapyApp has the team function which allows connection to family/friends. Check it out!
@elizbeech
03 November 2016 20:24
#WePh https://t.co/fIoXjf9dWV
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:25
RT @WePharmacists: Interesting thought - bit like @pabakz & his spouse point Any ideas? #wePh https://twitter.com/ejmille1/status/794273677382713349
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:25
@kmmurray97 I think most the time it's helping them understand exactly y something has been prescribed and the importance of each med #wePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:25
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 you need to software from the company to see. We used it with the patient to look at when they adhered better #weph
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:25
Can I counter-question A2 with "is it our role to increase adherence?"! #WePh @kmmurray97
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:25
RT @ejmille1: Is there an app that can be shared so that a family carer knows when their relative has taken their meds #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:25
Yes an it's *always* that way round! #WePh https://twitter.com/pabakz/status/794273603034480645
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:26
@ejmille1 check out https://www.mytherapyapp.com - the feature is there and we will further expand on it. Let us know your feedback, pls #weph
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:26
@MaryCEvans1 @QHadid @kmmurray97 @WePharmacists absolutely! #WePh
@josephbush
03 November 2016 20:26
NMS. But very modest impact and only at 10 weeks, not a 6 weeks. As for 26 weeks, who knows?! #weph https://t.co/CocFF5chGO
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:26
@MaryCEvans1 I call foul - had the "my boyfriend does my tablets' drug history talk today on the ward! #weph
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:26
#weph A1: better communication between HCPs allow #everycontactcount Adherence concerns could be raised at any time. Intervention timely
@elizbeech
03 November 2016 20:26
sorry forgot #WePh https://twitter.com/elizbeech/status/794273951530811394
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:27
RT @WePharmacists: and don't forget - this is a #PharmacyTeam efforts - techs do some great counselling (better than pharmacists/!) #Weph…
@diar_fattah
03 November 2016 20:27
RT @kmmurray97: Question 1: How can pharmacists assess patients adherence to medication? #WePh
@ashsoni0607
03 November 2016 20:27
RT @EmilyBeardall1: Pharmacy chat at 8pm using #WePh is on using apps/smartphones for medicines adherence, or sticking to taking meds. Plea…
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:27
#WEPh https://t.co/jMeYUa3kZI
@Qahira23
03 November 2016 20:27
@pabakz @MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 @WePharmacists but we can perhaps confirm it with their spouse? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:27
#wePh https://t.co/NnEbAc1aPS
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:27
@aptaim @kmmurray97 as we move away from paternalistic care it'll be the role of everyone incl. patients. They need support tho, tech? #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:28
@kmmurray97 open, honest, empathic, non-judgemental relationship. Invest in the relationship, build trust #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:28
@linda__liang @ejmille1 how are you going to get non-adherent pts to adhere to accurate recording in an app? #WePh (probably misunderstood)
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:28
Oi @patrickiwilson & @HPILLminster ... ;) #WePh https://t.co/QuB3PnPMDE
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:28
@WePharmacists @kmmurray97 less time staring at a computer screen (i.e. Better more efficient IT) #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:28
'I know an old (asian) lady', stopped using inhalers because new purple one doesn't work, has a draw full at home, she's told nurse #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:28
@patrickiwilson @kmmurray97 did they? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:28
RT @aptaim: Can I counter-question A2 with "is it our role to increase adherence?"! #WePh @kmmurray97
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:29
RT @josephbush: NMS. But very modest impact and only at 10 weeks, not a 6 weeks. As for 26 weeks, who knows?! #weph https://twitter.com/kmmurray97/status/794273256685576193
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:29
Sorry I have been a bit quiet - I am struggling with technology! #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:29
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 well we looked back at what was happening in the weeks they took their news vs when they didn't #weph
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:29
@MaryCEvans1 @linda__liang @ejmille1 you won't be able to get the ones that do not want to change. But there are many, who struggle #weph
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:29
@WePharmacists @SebastianGaede Def about understanding the ptnts struggles. Taking the time to understand allows them to be more open #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:29
@MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 can't science and answer as to whether it helped long term - and need to avoid being the adherence cop #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:30
@patrickiwilson ha, never heard that one before! #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:30
Christ-alive, JB has joined a #WePh chat - this is one to remember (not least as it's a very good, evidence based p… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794275484527951879
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:30
#WePh https://twitter.com/hpillminster/status/794275317707898880
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:30
RT @QHadid: @pabakz @MaryCEvans1 @kmmurray97 @WePharmacists but we can perhaps confirm it with their spouse? #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:30
RT @patrickiwilson: @kmmurray97 open, honest, empathic, non-judgemental relationship. Invest in the relationship, build trust #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:30
@MaryCEvans1 I was surprised - but I am a 21st century male of course #weph
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:30
I get the impression that the chat wants to move onto a discussion about technology. #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:30
RT @elizbeech: sorry forgot #WePh https://twitter.com/elizbeech/status/794273951530811394
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:31
RT @josephbush: NMS. But very modest impact and only at 10 weeks, not a 6 weeks. As for 26 weeks, who knows?! #weph https://t.co/CocFF5chGO
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:31
@elizbeech @aptaim @kmmurray97 @nhsbanesccg 'tis true, also for HCP. Who knows with NOACs? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:31
*love* #WePh https://t.co/J1RP5XJLjW
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:31
Q 3: Do apps and social media have a role in improving medication adherence? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:31
RT @MaryCEvans1: @linda__liang @ejmille1 how are you going to get non-adherent pts to adhere to accurate recording in an app? #WePh (probab…
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:31
@aptaim @kmmurray97 interesting Q. Our role to explain benefits (and risks) and support those that want to. #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:31
Treat patients as intelligent beings. Talk with them on a level, not as kids or down to them, as equals - that would help build trust #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:32
@WePharmacists when you solve that one let me know? #weph #carter
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:32
RT @MedicineGov: Same problem. An app wouldn't fix me. Now I hide/lie to my consultant. Then I would lie to the app @MaryCEvans1 #WePh htt…
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:32
@WePharmacists It's the (unofficial) motto of the @ukcfpg ! #WePh
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:32
@SebastianGaede @MaryCEvans1 &many who like to be independent with regards to their meds & just need reassurance they've taken them #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:32
RT @kmmurray97: Q 3: Do apps and social media have a role in improving medication adherence? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:32
RT @kmmurray97: Q 3: Do apps and social media have a role in improving medication adherence? #WePh
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:32
RT @josephbush: NMS. But very modest impact and only at 10 weeks, not a 6 weeks. As for 26 weeks, who knows?! #weph https://twitter.com/kmmurray97/status/794273256685576193
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:32
RT @rosshferguson: @aptaim @kmmurray97 interesting Q. Our role to explain benefits (and risks) and support those that want to. #WePh
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:33
@patrickiwilson @kmmurray97 yes- relationship building is important- i'd want that connection too rather than explain everything again #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:33
Allow patients to ask as many questions as need be till they are satisfied & understand comprehensively otherwise they will not buy in #weph
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:34
@kmmurray97 Yes...so much potential for use and an integral part of many peoples lives so an obvious role in adherence for many #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:34
->>#WePh https://twitter.com/HPILLminster/status/794276540913745921
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:34
@linda__liang @kmmurray97 the advantage of working long term with the same people - respiratory clinics for example #weph
@Evans_Pharmacy
03 November 2016 20:34
Perhaps asking patients about concerns is a good way in? #WePh https://twitter.com/kmmurray97/status/794270760466579459
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:35
#WePh ran out of characters https://twitter.com/hpillminster/status/794276540913745921
@BHCpharmacy
03 November 2016 20:35
RT @WePharmacists: and don't forget - this is a #PharmacyTeam efforts - techs do some great counselling (better than pharmacists/!) #Weph…
@ejmille1
03 November 2016 20:35
Its for carer peace of mind when can't be there to supervise not for deliberate non-adherence @MaryCEvans1 #WePh https://t.co/KNvV6hHzrh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:35
RT @kmmurray97: Q 3: Do apps and social media have a role in improving medication adherence? #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:35
Often I don't take meds because I can't get them out of packages & my daughter, my young carer is in school. Hate packaging! #weph
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:36
A3: I do think apps have a role - some great stuff out there for those that want it. That's key - engagement & ownership. #WePh
@Evans_Pharmacy
03 November 2016 20:36
Does anyone have any examples of apps to support taking medicinces that work well? #WePh https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794256574533566465
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:36
RT @ejmille1: Its for carer peace of mind when can't be there to supervise not for deliberate non-adherence @MaryCEvans1 #WePh https://t.co…
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:36
@Jo_GPPTP @SebastianGaede OK so how does an app give them that reassurance? It doesn't unless it is linked somehow, one action #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:37
More regular contact with my health pros would make me more accountable and likely to adhere @HPILLminster #WePh Re… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794277220843978769
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:37
A3: see role for SoMe, but different: more community shared experience (with a med /condition) hitting the motivation bit of COM-B. #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:37
RT @Evans_Pharmacy: Does anyone have any examples of apps to support taking medicinces that work well? #WePh https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794256574533566465
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:37
RT @Evans_Pharmacy: Perhaps asking patients about concerns is a good way in? #WePh https://t.co/Mtstgy8UAP
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:37
@HPILLminster totally agree, used as an extra layer of support #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:37
@kmmurray97 possibly in a very small self-selecting way. Not generalisable #weph
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:37
@ejmille1 @MaryCEvans1 @SebastianGaede that's why we intro'd connectivity. We had parents/children/friends who asked for peace of mind #WePh
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:38
@HPILLminster using tech for reinforcing real world relationships makes a lot of sense. Patients change for their families #weph
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:38
RT @aptaim: A3: I do think apps have a role - some great stuff out there for those that want it. That's key - engagement & ownership. #WePh
@patrickiwilson
03 November 2016 20:38
@kmmurray97 interesting study about this in CF out of Sheffield gone national http://www.herc.ac.uk/research_project/cfhealthhub/ #weph
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:38
Q4; Do any pharmacists already recommend apps to patients? #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:38
RT @Evans_Pharmacy: Does anyone have any examples of apps to support taking medicinces that work well? #WePh https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794256574533566465
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:38
RT @Evans_Pharmacy: Does anyone have any examples of apps to support taking medicinces that work well? #WePh https://twitter.com/EmilyBeardall1/status/794256574533566465
@DrDianeAshiru
03 November 2016 20:38
RT @Evans_Pharmacy: Does anyone have any examples of apps to support taking medicinces that work well? #WePh https://t.co/2C8F9Ajq4g
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:39
@MaryCEvans1 @Jo_GPPTP we're into RF transmitting doses here, aren't we?! @SebastianGaede #WePh
@rosshferguson
03 November 2016 20:39
@Evans_Pharmacy @EmilyBeardall1 my app @KidDoseapp is worth a go ??#WePh
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:39
#WePh ultimately if we have a genuine caring relationship with our pts regardless of profession, issues of adherence raised at earliest op
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:40
@MaryCEvans1 @SebastianGaede Why linked? Part of your tablet taking routine - a way to track if you've done it #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:40
There's a load of ppl who are already they're own experts at using apps&tech - patients. Need to take into account what they use & why #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:40
@ejmille1 @linda__liang Sorry, I don't understand how that would work. If unintentionally non adherent why would they adhere to apping #weph
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:40
@MaryCEvans1 @Jo_GPPTP yes, this it what MyTherapy app does. Patients connect with caregivers and providers so these can support them #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:40
I do a #PatientVliog called 'the drugs don't work' as tried/failed so many. Patients with multimorbidity of LTCs are complex #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:40
RT @HPILLminster: #WePh ultimately if we have a genuine caring relationship with our pts regardless of profession, issues of adherence rais…
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:41
@Evans_Pharmacy of the 160-200 #medadherence apps, have you seen https://t.co/vaaC5kH72T? We work w/ patients, researchers, HCPs #WePh
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:41
The main reason for my interest in apps was that I was started on a twice weekly medication in the summer and have an awful memory (1) #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:41
The vast online patient community been contributing to my blog post on apps and sharing what works for them #weph https://aprescriptionforme.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/apps-to-help-manage-medication/
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:42
I love tech but not sure if ever tested by disabled users,if u know one that works let me know. But taking meds is 1 piece of puzzle #weph
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:42
RT @EmilyBeardall1: The vast online patient community been contributing to my blog post on apps and sharing what works for them #weph https…
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:42
RT @EmilyBeardall1: The vast online patient community been contributing to my blog post on apps and sharing what works for them #weph https…
@pharmerfour
03 November 2016 20:42
@aptaim @WePharmacists #weph I could see a role for a "weconsumers" tweet chat handle to discuss health matters
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:43
@kmmurray97 what were your experience with the available apps so far in helping remember? #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:43
@WePharmacists @MedicineGov not easy to get into an MDS if you have problem with manipulation #weph
@h2cm
03 November 2016 20:43
RT @EmilyBeardall1: The vast online patient community been contributing to my blog post on apps and sharing what works for them #weph https…
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:43
@Jo_GPPTP @MaryCEvans1 for some patients caregivers are huge motivators. Others want to see a pic of the day. Motivation is complex #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:43
RT @MaryCEvans1: @WePharmacists @MedicineGov not easy to get into an MDS if you have problem with manipulation #weph
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:44
Only a web poll so doesn't count as EBM but it generated lots of discussion here on Twitter and my blog #WePh: https://t.co/pANguVBev5
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:44
@Jo_GPPTP @MaryCEvans1 ...and no two patients are alike #weph
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:44
@aptaim @Jo_GPPTP @SebastianGaede yes, capsules with RFID! Then you can tell it's been taken #bigbrotherwatching #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:44
I never knew that!! I cry in agony from opening packets, mostly I give up #WePh @WePharmacists @MaryCEvans1 https://t.co/WP3gdL3aZT
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:45
Whoa there! MDS not the only reasonable adustment - but is the one I hate the most... ^J #WePh https://twitter.com/MaryCEvans1/status/794278799332540425
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:45
#weph there some really good resp apps out there for kids that links inhalers and whistles #PS16 not just about remembering to take but how
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:45
@MaryCEvans1 @ejmille1 As a HCP, you can intro appropriate apps to your patients, who may be just forgetful. An app is a support tool #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:45
RT @EmilyBeardall1: Only a web poll so doesn't count as EBM but it generated lots of discussion here on Twitter and my blog #WePh: https://…
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:45
@ejmille1 @linda__liang @MaryCEvans1 we conducted studies at the Charite's geriatrics research group. Geriatric patients loved it #weph
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:46
RT @HPILLminster: #weph there some really good resp apps out there for kids that links inhalers and whistles #PS16 not just about rememberi…
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:46
@linda__liang Most of the apps I found were from USA (medisafe and My Pillbox). When I found MyTherapy I stopped looking. #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:46
Knowledge & Results would motivate me, not pictures.My healthis private & I'm independent @SebastianGaede @Jo_GPPTP @MaryCEvans1 #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:46
@Jo_GPPTP @SebastianGaede Having 2 elderly parents on meds I can assure you that they could easily do one without the other-either way #weph
@jaynebug1
03 November 2016 20:46
RT @PsychPharmSte: Pharmacy techs administering meds in one of my local hospitals @MedsManPharm @Cleverestcookie #tellWePh #WePh https://…
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:46
@SebastianGaede @MaryCEvans1 Realistically the apps would be aimed at those with unintentional adherence issues, patient choice #WePh
@heartsetonlivin
03 November 2016 20:47
RT @EmilyBeardall1: Only a web poll so doesn't count as EBM but it generated lots of discussion here on Twitter and my blog #WePh: https://…
@ejmille1
03 November 2016 20:47
Did they need support to get started? #WePh https://t.co/VvE3sob7m5
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:47
A few patients may suffer poor memory but many don't stick to meds for multiple other reasons @linda__liang @MaryCEvans1 @ejmille1 #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:48
RT @HPILLminster: #weph there some really good resp apps out there for kids that links inhalers and whistles #PS16 not just about rememberi…
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:48
can I hand over to @linda__liangou to share some of the evidence for use of apps to support adherence #WePh
@pharmerfour
03 November 2016 20:48
@Evans_Pharmacy @WePharmacists @EmilyBeardall1 yes @MedAdvisor_AU is great #WePh
@JohnathanLaird
03 November 2016 20:48
Evening I'm Johnathan, I'm a pharmacist and I'm late for this chat! ?? #WePh
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:49
@ejmille1 at best they get a little support, like setting it up with their (grand)son. Once they are using it, they are very loyal #weph
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:49
@Dr_LEGO_Tom I dare to join the chat #WePh
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:49
@WePharmacists @MedicineGov come on, it's almost a synonym these days! Hate them with a vengeance #weph
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:49
@Jo_GPPTP @SebastianGaede @MaryCEvans1 apps are not the be-all-end-all solution. But see # smartphone users http://bit.ly/2dk8wHh #WePh
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:49
@MaryCEvans1 @SebastianGaede not for every1 but for my 87yo Gran it would work a treat, for majority of younger could become norm too #WePh
@pharmerfour
03 November 2016 20:49
@Evans_Pharmacy @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 understanding human nature &a being on-judgemental@is a good start. #weph 1/2
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:49
@Jo_GPPTP @MaryCEvans1 yes, e.g. patients just forgetting or patients struggling with polymedication #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:50
Trust Knowledge Understanding ...about their health and meds ...some of the key ingredients to empower patients to adhere to medicines #WePh
@pharmerfour
03 November 2016 20:50
@Evans_Pharmacy @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 #weph don't ask "do you ever forget" - ask "what do you do when you do forget"
@MaryCEvans1
03 November 2016 20:50
Now apps to remind you to take make sense. Seen these work #weph https://twitter.com/emilybeardall1/status/794279713980157952
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:50
RT @pharmerfour: @Evans_Pharmacy @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 understanding human nature &a being on-judgemental@is a good start. #weph 1/2
@L1ttlepetal
03 November 2016 20:50
@EmilyBeardall1 this is really easy to do with a smartphone alarm. great idea. im always using mine for appointments or kids clubs etc #weph
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:51
@linda__liang @SebastianGaede @MaryCEvans1 agree, not the be-all-end-all but another tool to encourage adherence #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:52
.@MaryCEvans1 Part of your Carter challenge then? supply of pill-poppers, reminder charts, apps(!) instead?... #WePh @MedicineGov
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:52
Apps suggested to me by patients include Medisafe and Dosecast, which both keep track of "stock" and therefore when to reorder repeats #WePh
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:52
@L1ttlepetal @EmilyBeardall1 absolutely. for 1 tablet the alarm does the trick. When regimens become more complex, an app helps a lot #weph
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:52
#WePh as a prescriber myself now, comprehensive hx is important to determine whether Rx adherence could be issue, in 10min con, repeat appt
@pharmerfour
03 November 2016 20:52
@aptaim @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 #weph yes, but secondary to increasing patient understanding &a participation in their health decisions
@JohnathanLaird
03 November 2016 20:53
RT @HPILLminster: #weph there some really good resp apps out there for kids that links inhalers and whistles #PS16 not just about rememberi…
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:53
RT @MaryCEvans1: @WePharmacists @MedicineGov come on, it's almost a synonym these days! Hate them with a vengeance #weph
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:53
RT @WePharmacists: Whoa there! MDS not the only reasonable adustment - but is the one I hate the most... ^J #WePh https://t.co/81kcZDd5Pt
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:53
@kmmurray97 See gen. paper https://t.co/OyPUsIaj2u and prev. study we did https://t.co/tl6mHOEb7L for some evidence. Working on more! #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:54
So how do you go about this? Is it enough to ask? Or role for apps or SoMe here? #wePh https://twitter.com/HPILLminster/status/794281216849678337
@L1ttlepetal
03 November 2016 20:54
@SebastianGaede @EmilyBeardall1 i agree going off tangent iv usd breast feeding app in past which was fab as its tailored for the task #weph
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:54
@aptaim wow - this is technology at a whole new level #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:54
#tellWePh #WePh https://twitter.com/linda__liang/status/794281366741467142
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:55
RT @pharmerfour: @aptaim @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 #weph yes, but secondary to increasing patient understanding &a participation in their…
@JohnathanLaird
03 November 2016 20:55
@aptaim This is a superb point and the fact that we delay leaves us to be late adopters unfortunately #WePh https://twitter.com/aptaim/status/794270946228142080
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:55
@Jo_GPPTP cool, huh?! But fraught with ethical issues I'd think... #WePh
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:55
Consider language/cultural barriers to meds also EG diabetes high in south asian diet, many in my family don't fully understand regime #weph
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:56
@EmilyBeardall1 @L1ttlepetal Yes, there are some around. Though, as @kmmurray97 said, few w European privacy. And fewer with evidence #weph
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:56
RT @JohnathanLaird: @aptaim This is a superb point and the fact that we delay leaves us to be late adopters unfortunately #WePh https://t.…
@JohnathanLaird
03 November 2016 20:56
RT @pharmerfour: @aptaim @WePharmacists @kmmurray97 #weph yes, but secondary to increasing patient understanding &a participation in their…
@kmmurray97
03 November 2016 20:56
If use apps we still need a way to assess adherence. Debi Bhattacharya from UEA has developed IMAB-Q tool https://t.co/lRYzc0OQCi #WePh
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:56
Q5 How can you (as Healthcare providers) help patients leverage technology such as apps? #WePh
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:56
@WePharmacists sometimes I agree with pt that their local comm pharmacy team with assist with adherence issues discussed #plan #review #weph
@Jo_C_88
03 November 2016 20:57
@EmilyBeardall1 That sounds like a brilliant addition #decreasemedicationoverordering #WePh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:57
@JohnathanLaird @aptaim Which is better, late adopters of something that works or early adopters of something that doesn't? #WePh
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:57
@kmmurray97 I agree - this is why HCPs are important in facilitating education, responsibilty, support & the conversation #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:57
RT @linda__liang: Q5 How can you (as Healthcare providers) help patients leverage technology such as apps? #WePh
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:57
RT @linda__liang: Q5 How can you (as Healthcare providers) help patients leverage technology such as apps? #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:57
@SebastianGaede @L1ttlepetal @kmmurray97 If a patient uses it and it works for them, is it a problem that it's not evidenced though? #WePh
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:58
RT @Jo_GPPTP: @EmilyBeardall1 That sounds like a brilliant addition #decreasemedicationoverordering #WePh
@pabakz
03 November 2016 20:58
@JohnathanLaird @aptaim I don't know the answer. #WePh
@JohnathanLaird
03 November 2016 20:58
@pabakz @aptaim catch 22 #WePh
@HPILLminster
03 November 2016 20:58
#WePh if comm pharm is not the best allied HCP could be working with PACT nurse, HF team, COPD team, PD nurse working together 4pt
@MedicineGov
03 November 2016 20:58
Most meds taken by very sick and very old right or wrong? Apps aren't best option for either of them in majority cases OK for others #weph
@L1ttlepetal
03 November 2016 20:59
@linda__liang firstly we need to b comfortable with using them ourselves before we can show and discuss with patients their importance #weph
@SebastianGaede
03 November 2016 20:59
@EmilyBeardall1 @L1ttlepetal @kmmurray97 good point. it is rather unlikely that medication reminder apps worsen adherence #weph
@EmilyBeardall1
03 November 2016 20:59
Patients are much more up on tech than I think health pros realise so we can be guided by them surely? #WePh
@aptaim
03 November 2016 20:59
.@pabakz early adopter of something that doesnt... *then* feedback quick, improve it, make it work, fast! #WePh @JohnathanLaird
@WePharmacists
03 November 2016 20:59
RT @HPILLminster: #WePh if comm pharm is not the best allied HCP could be working with PACT nurse, HF team, COPD team, PD nurse working tog…
@linda__liang
03 November 2016 20:59
@MedicineGov yes & oftentimes they expect also a paternalistic point of care - that's why dialogue and self-empowerment is important #WePh




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