#WeNurses - Thursday 29th September 2022 8:30pm (GMT Standard Time) The Health Minister Role and Nursing.

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Following the recent UK Government cabinet reshuffle, 6th September 2022,  by the incoming prime minister Liz Truss, a new Secretary of State for Health and Social Care has been appointed, with the appointment also taking the role of Deputy prime minister, namely Thérèse Coffey, previously Secretary of State for Work and Pensions from 2019.

Thérèse Coffey tweets as @theresecoffey and in her new role set out her priorities in her first tweet below:


We all know there isn't a lot of room in a tweet and as the largest workforce provider of care one has to assume that nurses fall into the "care" part of Thérèse Coffey shared ABCD soundbite tweet above. 

The nursing workforce all around us is. as we know. extremely diverse in both our skills, experience, and roles, and even more so in how we are employed across health and social care, with the majority certainly in England employed within integrated care systems, explained here rather well by The Kings Fund.

For many of our experienced colleagues, they will have nurses through a few Governments and dozens or more Health Secretaries, even if you are just started out as a newly qualified nurse you'll have trained and nursed under the watch of at least four in the last 4 in the last 14 months

Given that the pressure on delivering care as nurses continues to mount, noting the pressures were quite considerable pre the pandemic, and the significant changes in the most senior role in the UK's health provision structure, let's take a look at our understanding of the role, impact and value of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care as a role. 

We'll be exploring the subject, the role of the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, the role and not the incumbent person, via the following questions on the chat:

  • Do you feel the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is/should be relevant to nurses?
  • What impact should the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role have on nursing?
  • How could a Secretary of State for Health and Social Care be/reamin informed about nursing?
  • Should nurses seek to influence the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role?
  • Should any cabinet member have direct skills related to their role, or are their advising councils enough?
  • What's the most relevant nursing message now for a Secretary of State for Health and Social Care?

                                                                                                                                     

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 #WeNurses transcript

 
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:30
WELCOME... It's 8:30pm and time to start #WeNurses Exploring "The Health Minister Role and Nursing." Please say Hi if you are joining and introduce yourself :) First question coming up in a few minutes! https://t.co/CTIS2qDk6u
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:30
@WeNurses You know me - lurking and learning on #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:31
Not joined a tweetchat before, here's how to take part... 1. Click on #WeNurses to see tweeted questions and responses 2. Join in by adding #WeNurses to your tweets 3. Do join in, we all learn from each other's views :) 4. Have fun connecting with your tweeting nurse peers! https://t.co/ZSxWf178fk
@WeCYPnurses
29 September 2022 20:31
Who's joining #wenurses this eve, interesting topic and approach to looking at politics in nursing... https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/1575568594976604177
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:32
Another quick reminder that we are exploring the ROLE of Health Minister this evening, rather than those who are in it or have had it :) Remembering to be kind to each other on this and every #wenurses https://t.co/oxpC3JAshD
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:32
@JulieYo42688717 Hi Julie :) welcome along to your first tweetchat :) If you pop #wenurses in our tweets we'll all be able to see your views :)
@AilsaMcMillan1
29 September 2022 20:32
#WeNurses pilot error… https://twitter.com/ailsamcmillan1/status/1575568946324971531
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:32
@AilsaMcMillan1 Hi up there Alisa :) welcome! If you pop #WeNurses in your tweets we won't miss out on them on the chat, that would be a shame!
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:33
Here we go... #WeNurses QUESTION 1 "Do you feel the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is/should be relevant to nurses?" Adding #WeNurses to your replies so we can all see them :) https://t.co/2x822bBPRT
@punc22_miranda
29 September 2022 20:33
@WeNurses Hello! I’m Miranda and a 1st year student, first Tweetchat, how exciting! #WeNurses
@PUNCabz
29 September 2022 20:33
@WeNurses Hello everyone! Looking forward to hearing your answers #WeNurses
@Jenifa1
29 September 2022 20:33
Hi - Jenny - neuro rehab nurse, knackered but still going. #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:33
@NRCUK We do like a lurker and you are always welcome Nick, thanks for your #wenurses interest and support!
@WeStudentNurse
29 September 2022 20:33
Who is joining #WeNurses this eve? Here is how.... https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/1575568846437638144
@PUNCabigale
29 September 2022 20:34
@WeNurses Hi, I’m Abi, first time nursing student, and first tweet chat! #PUNC22 #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:34
@punc22_miranda @PUNCabz Hi PUNCS :) well done for joining tonights #wenurses big welcome to you both!
@sarahwteaches
29 September 2022 20:34
@WeNurses Hello, my name is Sarah #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:34
@Jenifa1 There's a T shirt in there!!! welcome to #WeNurses
@AilsaMcMillan1
29 September 2022 20:35
@WeNurses #WeNurses Absolutely Care is fundamental to our discipline and we should actively engage with the role and person!
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:35
@PUNCabigale Hi Abigale... welcome along to #wenurses
@lgoodbu
29 September 2022 20:35
@WeNurses I think the health minster needs to understand the issues that we currently have with the nursing workforce as so far no mention of nurses #WeNurses
@danbeglin
29 September 2022 20:36
RT @WeNurses: Here we go... #WeNurses QUESTION 1 "Do you feel the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is/should be rele…
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:36
@sarahwteaches Hi Sara, thanks for joining this evening in #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:36
RT @AilsaMcMillan1: @WeNurses #WeNurses Absolutely Care is fundamental to our discipline and we should actively engage with the role and pe…
@punc22_em
29 September 2022 20:36
@WeNurses Hi I’m Emma, new student nurse ????? #WeNurses
@WeCommNurses
29 September 2022 20:36
RT @WeNurses: Here we go... #WeNurses QUESTION 1 "Do you feel the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care is/should be rele…
@danbeglin
29 September 2022 20:37
@WeNurses I think that the Health Secretary should be someone with knowledge of the health system and the needs of it’s workers, so yes it is relevant. #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:37
@lgoodbu Hi Lesley, thanks for joining this eve, lovely to have you with us on #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:37
#WeNurses https://twitter.com/julesm2211/status/1575570303253549057
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:38
@julesm2211 thanks for sharing on #wenurses this eve Jules :)
@SarahLloyd84X
29 September 2022 20:38
@WeNurses #WeNurses I have just started my first year of nursing at University. Looking at the role of the Health Minister, in my limited experience, it is relevant and should be relevant to my future role as a nurse.
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:39
Up next... #WeNurses "What impact should the Minister of Health/Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role have on nursing?" Adding #WeNurses to your replies please :) https://t.co/Wubsjpz14V
@WeMHNurses
29 September 2022 20:39
Looking the health minister role on #wenurses this eve... who is joining in the chat? https://twitter.com/WeNurses/status/1575569349787541504
@drmarionlynch
29 September 2022 20:39
Minister for health is very relevant to nurses. Nurse advisors could be overtly guiding them #WeNurses
@lgoodbu
29 September 2022 20:39
@WeNurses Good to be here are more our @HopeNetworkNHS tweeters here ? #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:40
@punc22_em Hi Emma, welcome along and well done for joining #wenurses you'll be an expert by monday for your #PUNC22 chat :)
@natzeh
29 September 2022 20:40
@WeNurses #wenurses most definitely but the ABCD approach seems to have forgotten about all the other sectors which make up our National health service
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:40
@drmarionlynch Hi and thanks for bringing your views this evening Marion to #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:41
RT @drmarionlynch: Minister for health is very relevant to nurses. Nurse advisors could be overtly guiding them #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:41
RT @lgoodbu: @WeNurses Good to be here are more our @HopeNetworkNHS tweeters here ? #wenurses
@lgoodbu
29 September 2022 20:41
RT @natzeh: @WeNurses #wenurses most definitely but the ABCD approach seems to have forgotten about all the other sectors which make up our…
@punc22_miranda
29 September 2022 20:42
@WeNurses Definitely! Care is key. As someone whose role states that they oversee the NHS delivery of care, I feel they should also have firsthand experience of the challenges faced by the people on the ground #WeNurses
@AilsaMcMillan1
29 September 2022 20:42
@WeNurses #WeNurses The minister should have a positive and transformational impact. The practice of shaming In government narrative is unhelpful. We (nursing) should be open to high challenge and high support but have an ally too!
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:43
@natzeh @WeNurses Do those in the role not think the 3'ish million strong workforces deserve more than sound bites throughout their time in the role. #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:44
RT @AilsaMcMillan1: @WeNurses #WeNurses The minister should have a positive and transformational impact. The practice of shaming In govern…
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:44
RT @AilsaMcMillan1: @WeNurses #WeNurses The minister should have a positive and transformational impact. The practice of shaming In govern…
@lgoodbu
29 September 2022 20:44
@alisonstemp @WeNurses @HopeNetworkNHS Dont lurk jump in #wenurses
@danbeglin
29 September 2022 20:44
@WeNurses The Secretary of State for Health should be working with the NHS/Social Care to improve retainment by listening to nurses and their needs and actually doing something about it #WeNurses
@WeCommNurses
29 September 2022 20:44
RT @WeNurses: Up next... #WeNurses "What impact should the Minister of Health/Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role have on n…
@sarahwteaches
29 September 2022 20:44
@WeNurses #wenurses
@WeCYPnurses
29 September 2022 20:44
RT @WeNurses: Up next... #WeNurses "What impact should the Minister of Health/Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role have on n…
@CareHome_Nurse
29 September 2022 20:44
@WeNurses Totally and I think they should have relevant experience to the department they work in! #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:45
On to ... #WeNurses QUESTION 3 "How is/could a Secretary of State for Health and Social Care be/remain informed about nursing?" Well done for keeping #WeNurses in your replies and tweets this eve! https://t.co/u1Cp6NcqFH
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:45
#wenurses https://t.co/8o19znwMUp
@PUNC22_ELong
29 September 2022 20:45
@WeNurses Need to have an understanding / appreciation of the potential impact on Nurses with any decision that they make #WeNurses
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:46
Great views in a single tweet Ailsa #wenurses https://t.co/bfjV4Cm3MC
@Jenifa1
29 September 2022 20:46
@WeNurses #WeNurses The NHS and nursing profession is crying out for a leader that understands the VALUE of the role (both trained and untrained) and the real risk to retention at the moment. What we don’t need is someone who is happily prescribe a QDS towel flick on the arse to.
@CareHome_Nurse
29 September 2022 20:46
@WeNurses Taking time to work alongside those who work in these setting. Without PR or cameras to record it! Speaking with our unions and those who access our services. #WeNurses
@natzeh
29 September 2022 20:47
@WeNurses #wenurses by getting on the ground and talking to nurses from as many different sectors as possible. It’s the best way to keep upto date with on going issues/fears/concerns and to see what’s going well
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:47
@CareHome_Nurse have you been skipping ahead on questions :) Hi Shiona, thank you for joining us on #wenurses once again
@WeCommNurses
29 September 2022 20:47
RT @WeNurses: On to ... #WeNurses QUESTION 3 "How is/could a Secretary of State for Health and Social Care be/remain informed about nur…
@PUNCabigale
29 September 2022 20:47
@WeNurses #wenurses Following tweet chats like this and keeping active in the nursing community would help!
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:47
RT @natzeh: @WeNurses #wenurses by getting on the ground and talking to nurses from as many different sectors as possible. It’s the best wa…
@CareHome_Nurse
29 September 2022 20:48
@WeNurses Oops sorry #WeNurses
@GammellTerry
29 September 2022 20:48
@WeNurses Hello, I’m Terry, crown court practitioner. Get busy and visit places where nurses do nursing! #WeNurses
@SarahLloyd84X
29 September 2022 20:49
@WeNurses #WeNurses #WeStudentNurses #PUNC22 The holder of the role should have relevant experience of the health and social care sector to have a more informed knowledge of the daily requirements, of those who look out for the health and well-being of others.
@PUNC22_ELong
29 September 2022 20:49
@WeNurses Spending time on the front line, speaking / engaging with nurses, getting a wider view from all areas of nursing, Speaking to nurses that have quit or retired early and try to understand why they left #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:50
Flying on to #WeNurses QUESTION 4 "Should nurses seek to influence the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care role?" We all need to see your views, so please add #WeNurses to your replies :) https://t.co/KgwMc28TEA
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:50
@WeNurses One has to assume that there is much information and first hand experience fed into these roles, but, there is zero visibility of that, so it remains an assumption or many feel the role is just disconnected and workforces are unvalued #wenurses
@punc22_miranda
29 September 2022 20:51
@WeNurses I feel that the Sec of State for Health needs to have their ears to the ground and listen to concerns from nurses firsthand. Use Twitter to get the feel for what nurses are thinking (use that digital professionalism #NRS410 ??) #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:51
@PUNCabigale Indeed, We have 1500 archived to run through anytime :) #WeNurses https://wecommunities.org/tweet-chats/chat-archive But nurses are certainly visible if you would like to listen to them :)
@puncb3th
29 September 2022 20:52
@WeNurses #WeNurses I think the role of secretary of state for health and social care be relevant and also held by someone who has worked in the sector as they will have more of an insight into how hard the job actually is/can be and will also hold more relevant insights in the sector.
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:52
@GammellTerry welcome along again Terry, thank you for joining #wenurses this eve
@GammellTerry
29 September 2022 20:52
@WeNurses Of course!! #WeNurses
@AilsaMcMillan1
29 September 2022 20:53
@WeNurses #WeNurses I believe they should take time to ‘be with’ nurses in all areas of practice. The importance of being a nurse not doing nursing is key to understanding the complexity of practice. The minister would also meet some amazing people. And without an entourage!
@louisebrady17
29 September 2022 20:53
@WeNurses Dear Minister.. its critically important to understand the complexity of #nursing. National policy impacts our #workforce and our ability 2 safely deliver the care we can to our communities. We are often the largest workforce with the quietest voice. Change needed! #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:53
@GammellTerry Plain and simple response Terry :) #wenurses
@KirstLBee
29 September 2022 20:53
@WeNurses The SoS absolutely is relevant…policy dictates how/where funding is allocated, and how support is offered to our patients #WeNurses
@Jenifa1
29 September 2022 20:54
@GammellTerry @WeNurses #WeNurses - we MUST stop doing this
@puncb3th
29 September 2022 20:54
@WeNurses #WeNurses the ability to stick up for those within the sector. As nurses we are not robots we are people, we need looking after/out for also
@danbeglin
29 September 2022 20:54
@WeNurses Absolutely! Nursing and healthcare is political and nurses must seek to influence policy for the betterment of healthcare. #WeNurses
@sarahwteaches
29 September 2022 20:54
@WeNurses The basics of talking/asking questions and listening would be a good starting point #wenurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:55
Next, on #WeNurses QUESTION 5 "Should any cabinet member have direct skills related to their role, or are their advising councils enough?" https://t.co/ODSLDK4o1v
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:55
RT @AilsaMcMillan1: @WeNurses #WeNurses I believe they should take time to ‘be with’ nurses in all areas of practice. The importance of bei…
@puncb3th
29 September 2022 20:55
@WeNurses Like every other nurse/student nurse have access and read policies/procedures and changes to aspects of care which is provided across all platforms #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:55
@louisebrady17 Welcome and thanks Louise for joining us on #WeNurses :) appreciate you lending us your passion this evening.
@KirstLBee
29 September 2022 20:56
@WeNurses Through meeting those on the frontline, and engaging with professional organisations. So important that Nurses engage in political process to get the voice of the profession heard! #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:56
#wenurses https://twitter.com/Jenifa1/status/1575574195613757441
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:56
RT @puncb3th: @WeNurses #WeNurses the ability to stick up for those within the sector. As nurses we are not robots we are people, we need l…
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:57
RT @sarahwteaches: @WeNurses The basics of talking/asking questions and listening would be a good starting point #wenurses
@drmarionlynch
29 September 2022 20:57
4. #WeNurses Should influence, must influence. Advocacy for social justice is 5th Carper way of knowing for nursing. To be seen & heard we must turn up & speak up in way that raises awareness/nudges/advocates, & also be activists for healthcare justice as well as individual care
@puncb3th
29 September 2022 20:57
@WeNurses 100% we are the ones working at the forefront, we are the ones who see the pitfalls of the job but also the aspects which work #WeNurses
@CareHome_Nurse
29 September 2022 20:57
@WeNurses Yes! How else can we influence the policies thats impact on our roles and the care that we deliver! #WeNurses
@NRCUK
29 September 2022 20:57
@sarahwteaches @WeNurses the irony of going "back to basics" yet still bypassing all the basics... #wenurses
@Rhys_Marv
29 September 2022 20:58
@WeNurses #WeNurses they should definitely have experience within the role! I mean how many ministers have not "followed the science" or not fully thiught through the effect of change on actual people
@WeCommNurses
29 September 2022 20:58
RT @WeNurses: Next, on #WeNurses QUESTION 5 "Should any cabinet member have direct skills related to their role, or are their advising c…
@WeMHNurses
29 September 2022 20:58
RT @WeNurses: Next, on #WeNurses QUESTION 5 "Should any cabinet member have direct skills related to their role, or are their advising c…
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 20:59
RT @drmarionlynch: 4. #WeNurses Should influence, must influence. Advocacy for social justice is 5th Carper way of knowing for nursing. To…
@PUNC22_ELong
29 September 2022 20:59
@WeNurses Direct skills are helpful.... but more important is a full understanding of the area they are responsible for #WeNurses
@CareHome_Nurse
29 September 2022 20:59
@WeNurses As my earlier jumping the gun comment YES! How else can you understand the impact you will have on the health and social care workforce and their patients/residents #WeNurses
@psychology4545
29 September 2022 20:59
RT @drmarionlynch: 4. #WeNurses Should influence, must influence. Advocacy for social justice is 5th Carper way of knowing for nursing. To…
@RachMc1984
29 September 2022 20:59
@WeNurses Definitely think it would help if they had direct skills related to their roles. #wenurses
@punc22_miranda
29 September 2022 20:59
@WeNurses I believe it’s important to have firsthand experience of what the people your policies are impacting go through. Not necessarily skills, but empathy #WeNurses
@WeNurses
29 September 2022 21:00
And finally... QUESTION 6 On #WeNurses "What's the most relevant nursing message now for a Secretary of State for Health and Social Care?" https://t.co/BtqYrSegbh




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